Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Since we don't even have cubes, can't wait to come in at zero-dark-thirty to get a decent hot desk.

I don't think it's that. Honeywell just hates WFH more than they care about anything else.

I just can't wait to deal with rush hour traffic again, driving into the sun both ways. I'll be able to attend Teams meetings so much better from my cube instead of from home.

It’s driving the few younger workers out, they are leaving for remote roles.

@Futureshaper, looks like you took over the job I got RIF'ed from last year!

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/18/raytheon-to-cut-office-space-by-25percent-as-it-embraces-hybrid-work-.html

I'm older but I don't really see a connection between Return to Office (RTO) and senior staff shrinkage. HW has long had a variety of ways to push out older employees. The pandemic really isn't giving them any new techniques.

People have different viewpoints on RTO, and those with strong enough convictions will either quit or engage in behavior that will get them fired or out in the next RIF. It may actually save a few jobs for the loyal old-timers who are willing to come in and work.

Here at Honeywell, I am forced to work 40+ hours in an office putting made up numbers into spreadsheets and putting spreadsheets with made up numbers into powerpoints.

I am a futureshaper. jingle

It’s also really a target for parents of young children who used to rely on the flexibility of their jobs like we used to have a few years ago.

@qjs+1aVVfKSv

Same here. I'm not going to take away personal time and sacrifice it for this company. Today, I'm putting the hours I used to waste driving to and from the site into my workday. Once we start going back in, I'm back to the bare minimum work hours too. The hilarity of it all is that at home I call into team meetings because everyone is working from home. When I go back to the depressing cube farm I'll be calling into team meetings because no one on my team is at that site but me. "better when we are together"? Yea, whatever you say Mad dog. Enjoy that new Porsche.

WFH, I routinely get on line 6-6:30AM. I work to about 4:30, leave laptop on, take a break and maybe do a couple things later in evening. Everything I do in my job can be done remotely. When I have to go back to office 45 minute to 1 hour commute. it will be back to 7:15ish to 4, core work hours. No more work at evenings. Hon will loose about 2 hrs of work per day from me.

Heck, us old f*rts will go back to the office. We're used to doing what we are told.

It's the Young talent that will balk at going in.

Old folks aren't going anywhere voluntarily.

Why would it be a drive to push older employees to retire? Are you too old to drive to work? Are you too old to work in an office or cubicle? I don't understand how this is targeting just older employees? Showing up to a Honeywell location to perform your work daily was a condition of work that all of you agreed to when you accepted the job, or was changed to that policy at some point during your employment.

Look on the bright side. If you go back to work maybe you'll be considered an essential employee like us worker bees who sweated it out every day during the pandemic.

Never attribute malicious intent when simple laziness and lack of innovation is sufficient to explain the behavior. The top people want everyone back in the office because they just can’t think of any better plan. Changing course takes energy.

I am under 30 and hate the idea of going back to the office every day. Every person my age and younger that I've talked to doesn't want to go back to work full time. Honeywell is going to lose a lot of young engineers because of this. Google, Facebook, Amazon and other companies are hiring for flex work and we are looking.

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https://www.flexjobs.com/blog/post/companies-switching-remote-work-long-term/

LOL yea, look at this list of unsuccessful and backwards thinking companies adopting working remote:

Zillow

Google - if only google could be as successful as HON? Lol

Reuters

Twitter

Square

Facebook

Salesforce

Amazon - I guess Amazon doesn't need to be together to be better?

Spotify

Hitachi

Coinbase

Mastercard

Nielsen Research company

Nationwide Insurance

Are you kidding me? HON hasn't wanted to be successful in over a decade now. The name of the game is selling off assets, closing sites and selling buildings, RIFing employees and watching the market penetration rate fall each year while telling wall street everything is great. It's not lying if you don't get caught, I guess.

Well, you've got two camps...actually three.

1. Those who are okay with going back to the office.
2. Those who do not want to go back to the office for whatever reason.
3. Those who have continued going to work throughout the pandemic.

Those in Group 2 could be of any age, and are the easiest to target/drive off.

Many corporations have finally realized the obvious -- that work-from-home leads to a massive loss in productivity. See also teachers' unions during COVID...

I think it is. There's no good reason to do it and the people who need to be on site never stopped going. All these lies like we are better together and other nonsense is just subterfuge to urge people to get back in the office and drive them out so they don't have to pay severance. I think we have all learned that we do not need to be in some virus riddled, run down building to be effective.

They aren't going to break my resolve! I'm waiting for the next RIF and they aren't going to change my mind.