Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Lift and shift - Wells Fargo scandal transforms, now against American workers and taxpayers

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/15/job-losses-trump-tax-cut-at-t-general-motors-wells-fargo

Wells Fargo, the fourth largest bank in the US by assets, tied a minimum wage increase of $15 an hour to the Trump tax cuts and pledged increased investments in workers. The company is estimated to save $3.7bn annually due to the Trump tax cut. The bank’s 2018 tax savings were 47 times more than the costs of its minimum wage increases. Rather than invest in its workforce, Wells Fargo bought back 350m shares in early 2018, worth about $22.6bn, increased CEO salary by 36%, and announced plans in September 2018 to eliminate at least 26,000 jobs in the US over the next three years as many of those positions are being sent overseas.

“Nobody here saw any of that benefit; if anything, quite the opposite. They changed our healthcare plans in 2019, so the costs for everyone went up, the costs for prescriptions went up,” said Mark Wi---e, a Wells Fargo office employee in Des Moines, Iowa. “We need a voice because we’re often forgotten about in pursuit of profits, and that’s evident with the jobs being sent overseas.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/19/16795540/wells-fargo-republican-tax-bill

But the money Wells saves on its 2018 tax bill probably won’t go to customers it has wronged. As CNN’s Lydia DePillis pointed out, Sloan, who in 2016 made $13 million, in an investor presentation earlier this month that he was looking to return more money to shareholders.

“Is it our goal to increase return to our shareholders and do we have an excess amount of capital? The answer to both is, yes,” Sloan said. “So our expectation should be that we will continue to increase our dividend and our share buybacks next year and the year after that and the year after that.”

But while the bank enjoys super generous tax savings, investment in India has never been greater:

https://www.tranzzakt.com/post/wells-fargo-inks-1-3-million-sq-ft-office-lease-with-divyasree-in-hyderabad

While the bank focuses on transitioning jobs from American nationals to India nationals:

https://ustechworkers.com/wells-fargo-ceo-grilled-for-outsourcing-american-jobs-to-india/

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@3jzv+1aDJs61K Stellar logic from one of the board conservatives once again. Clearly all the people paid by Wells Fargo come here to post because it's working out so well for them.

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Post ID: @2bey+1aDJs61K

So by your rational, giving tax breaks to large corporations ie: WFC will actually create new jobs, raise the wages of existing employees and generally benefit society as a whole rather than reduce the taxes that corporations pay so they can use that money for share buybacks and generally enrich their executive staff and shareholders.

I think the evidence is pretty conclusive and I'm not sure it's on your side but I'm not an economist so who knows.

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@2nas+1aDJs61K

I hate to break the news to you, but if you want to be paid to work, you are also a 'big fan of capitalism'.

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Post ID: @3jzv+1aDJs61K

Dang, who could've guessed the guy who posts paranoid walls of texts and upvotes his own posts is also a big fan of capitalism lol

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Post ID: @2nas+1aDJs61K

lol, only disproven in the minds of various flavors of Socialist, who's own spectacular failure has to be justified somehow. It's actually impossible for $ not to "trickle down". Unless a rich person never spends or invests any money, which describes exactly zero rich people in history. Yes yes, "the rich have X amount of the wealth!", what the pointy headed professor failed to mention is that WHO is rich changes over time. It's not the same people. The same person could be "rich" one year and bankrupt the next, but the ideologically driven intellectual talks about "the rich" like it's an unchanging monolithic subset of society, hanging out and drinking brandy together in the parlor. The other reason they don't mention it is that new rich people destroy the narrative that upward mobility is impossible, which is laughable on its face, but that doesn't stop people from trying. Even among the absolute richest (Gates, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Bezos etc.) that wealth will only survive a few generations and then it will be spent/donated/wasted/seized/taxed, whatever. Gates and Bezos families were not spectacularly wealthy, they built businesses and earned it. There's 19 million millionaires in the USA, and most didn't inherit their $. A free market is an amazing source of $ for those with the passion and the talent to go get it. No, most of us won't turn out to be billionaires, but our middle class is "rich" compared to most of the world, so it's not the end of the world to be a worker bee.

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Post ID: @2bey+1aDJs61K

Trickle down economics - the most widely disproven financial theory in the world. Who would have expected the rich to get richer and the poorer get poorer. /s

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Post ID: @2xpo+1aDJs61K

A guy mugs you on the way to the office every morning and steals $100/day from you. One day, he starts taking your $100, but he gives you $10 back each time. You tell your coworker this when you get the office. Coworker says, "that mugger is really generous. I don't think you deserve the $10, but I'll be the judge of that. What do you plan on doing with it?"

That's this thread in a nutshell. Whether compensation is appropriate doesn't really have anything to do with the corp tax rate. That's not how business works. If the corp tax rate went up, we wouldn't expect a pay cut. Anyone looking at things objectively is well aware that there are people at WF that are underpaid, and some that are overpaid. What the company really needs to do is pay for performance. Blanket min wage increases just don't work, whether a tax cut 'pays for them' or not.

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Post ID: @2bdz+1aDJs61K

They gave out 50 shares to most people though with those buybacks. Luckily I sold everything the day they vested.

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Post ID: @1yay+1aDJs61K

The corporations took the Trump tax cuts and enriched themselves mostly by stock buybacks. Not to mention what they gained in their personal wealth.

Who didn’t see that coming?

Meanwhile the American worker works for a little over seven bucks an hour at minimum and. I one wants to change that.

Of course they don’t.

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Post ID: @1wja+1aDJs61K

its unfortunate the US govt would do this to US citizens; companies dont care

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Post ID: @isw+1aDJs61K

interesting post, i guess the issue started in the government not ensuring US jobs were given to Co------t coutries

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Post ID: @oae+1aDJs61K

wow one anti-american worforce when the government gave all that money for them to invest in American employment! I think the issue is all the greed at the top, not only stealing from customers but the government now too, not only this but stole the Covid relief funds, that was in the papers last year, the money that was supposed to go to small businesses, not wells fargo. They really need to hurry with the new network for the monetary systems to stop all this theft.

This will be stopped soon with the new administration.

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Post ID: @ofg+1aDJs61K

All true! Thank you for posting.

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