I’ve heard from several people who have left that the money is better elsewhere. I am an experienced hire in 2018. I’m a CL 28, with a salary of $202,500 and no bonus.
What can expect upon promotion to CL 29 and 30? 10% salary bump with promotion. RSUs (what amount)? I’m thinking of leaving for greener pastures.
Be glad you are making that much. The salary on the outside is much less in many other industries.
OP: That is very fair. It seems opaque to me, and it seems as if supervisors should be more forthcoming about salary potential. It’s much less open than other O&G companies, and it seems easy to mismanage because you might lose people you’d have otherwise retained with a bit more transparency.
OP: There is not enough information to answer the question. 1) There are 3 different salary curves depending on whether you are upstream technical, other engineering/IT or accounting/finance etc. 2) your midpoint depends on your ranking 3) the curve depends on Your Year end experience (which defined as age minus 18)...They system gives credit for your time in college or grad school or for that matter anywhere by basing curve on age minus 18. 4) Salary curves are being adjusted based on competitor surveys. Obviously,,,,freezing salaries means that XOM is above the curve. Your question cannot be answered. Anyone answering the question is an id–t,
At $202500 you are at ~81% midpoint for a CL28, which is very low. Consequently, you can expect salary treatment, but, a bump to CL 29 is long off. If you were hired for a general management position, I'd guess your future is bleak at the moment. If you were hired to fill in a specific technical gap you are ok. However, in that case the y'd have started you as a CL 27 at that low pay. That leads me to guess you are a troll.
This thread is fascinating. If you ask yourself how you are paid relative to the peers you graduated with from college , be it 2 years , 5 years or 10 or 20 or 30 years ago; the vast majority of you will say you are paid a lot more than your peer group. Maybe we need to ask HR to make CL levels of 24 1/3 , 24 2/3, 25, 25 1/3, 25 2/3, 26, 26 1/3, 26 2/3, 27 ... etc. This way, all whom grew up in the “everyone’s get a trophy 3 times a year for club swim, soccer, and softball/baseball teams” can feel validated on an ongoing 3-4 time a year basis. It is embarrassing to see the drivel of the colleagues on this website whom think CL is a metric, a high ranked 26 can make more than a low ranked 28 as salary bands in a given CL are hugely dependent on rank quintile and YEE (years of experience). The post from kir+197 seems a good barameter for those looking for a calibration point.
I guess I couldn’t care less about staying a 28 as long as I’m employed. But that still doesn’t answe the question about salary potential: $250k possible? $275k? Tesla will pay me 300k to leave right now, but I have to move to BFE Texas.
Experienced hires are marked and not in a good way. They want 22 year olds fresh out of school with BS degrees. They value time with XOM above all else. If you are older when hired they say they don’t have time to get you the experiences you need. Over time your CL potential will limit you with this same narrative given. Seems like age descriminariam to me.
Another O&G major considers the equivalent of CL 28 at EM to be achievable toward the end of a successful individual contributor career. So yes, that where the train stops for many.
So if I was hired as a 28, you’re telling me there’s no career progression? That seems crazy, no? I mean, I guess I believe you but don’t understand. Most people don’t stay in a job with no opportunity for advancement? So why did they hire me?
The salary numbers and yakking on this thread are hilarious.
And it is true - experienced hires don't make it past 28.
Of coarse US salaries are higher. We have to save for our retirement and pay for our health care. Total remuneration is likely similar. In Europe the money just goes directly to your government while in US it passes through your account before you pay for your health insurance, save for retirement, etc.
Looks like US personnel has higher salaries than Europe!
I don’t know anonymous, let me ask my bank account.
Yes, it’s right. Keep in mind I seem to have missed a raise, and I haven’t really had any significant raises since I started.
Can this be right? I’m a 27 with less experience than you making significantly more than you. Are you downstream?
I ranked a four out of five (really not sure what the word was) this year but got zero raise. I got raises each of the past years for essentially no ranking since so new, so I assume this is due to salary freeze, but manager didn’t say. So, assuming I get that raise at some point and promotion to 29, what am I looking at? 15 years exp at this point.
XOM HR here. If you’re 28 and not getting RSUs do not expect to make 29...or 30 for that matter. Advancement guides won’t have you being promoted to 29 for....ever. And forget about making CL30. PSA kiddies, it’s better to be a well ranked 29 (it’s still a ranking dummies) than a mediocre 30+.
Experienced hire here. They start you low. Once you stick around and get rated well your raise go fast. Top ranked CL28 make approx $250-280K plus 300 RSUs.. This was pre covid, what happens in years now is anyone's guess.
It's dog eat dog so getting there in ranking is tough. Good luck
You’ll be the one laughing when Dallas calls me to join the management committee. Any day now...
For reals though - what salary can I expect if I survive pipping?
If your an experienced hire - and already a 28 - you are getting PiP'd, pal.
3-year experienced hire staying on...
Unless you are an off-shoring expert (I mean people, not rigs).