It is 2am now and I can't sleep. I absolutely regret joining this place. No career path is planned, just rotate around to be used till you get PIP.
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It's hard to believe the big Corp will turnaround the decade trend of lower return and lower profit margin, cutting cost alone won't get there, the only way to get there is everyone devote time and mind but now the moral is very low, no loyalty and trust, regardless you are in Houston or SG. almost exact same thing same topic about management, forced ranking, lack of transparency,PIP, lack of visionary leaders, moving jobs to KLTC, BTC, ppl leaving... the moral seems even lower in HQ. so how to turn around this big ship ? Lack of motivation and innovation. Why everything becomes so superficial ? So how does all these transformation work out ? HR has no clue what about organization behavior and how to help leaders.. poor HR management
Poking around in this forum for what?! Already heard a lot of feedback but apparently nothing is done. Please focus on your day job, dear execs, either in kissing Darren’s a-s or in improving the lives of Singaporean workers. Otherwise, a waste of time.
Poking around in this forum for what?! Already heard a lot of feedback but apparently nothing is done. Please focus on your day job, dear execs, either in kissing Darren’s a-s or in improving the lives of Singaporean workers. Otherwise, a waste of time.
it took me 15 years to get from CL 23 to CL 25... pay is $9k, early 40s... middle to top third ranking. local U grad, non engineer. I can easily get similar job outside at higher pay, so I don't have anxiety about the current situation... but I'm lazy to hustle, interview/ linkedin etc. I'm a workhorse and good at what I do, and I always teach others without reservation, even if they are in GBC to replace me. to me this job is for me to earn money and learn things, so I don't wish to become selfish and bitter. I saved $1m+ already, despite my pay increasing so slowly from 3k to 9k in 15 years. capitalism is all the same lah...so I don't hate on EM. one day when it's my time I will go happily and lightly. one good thing about being under-appreciated and short-changed... my identity and self worth is not tied to EM. I don't even care if they put me in NSI... cos whatever lah, it's their loss if I leave. I really like the people I met in EM... many smart, kind and humble folks, in SG and overseas
You’ll be surprised that even some CL 30s are also peeping and poking into this forum!
Just to have their ears on the ground.
Anonymously, of course.
Only a CL27 will know and there’s not many CL27 in this forum sharing this kind of information on this forum. They are too busy sucking up.
What is salary range for CL23, 24, 25, 26
I was ranked middle for many years (from below avg to above avg) and it took me 7 years to get to CL25, with the 7th year finally being in top third.
It’s not going to get any better with a weak LCM at the helm.
As long as you had been ranked bottom third, your career is over. Do yourself a favour and find another job. Hoping that things will get better, generally doesn’t work in EM.
First 2 years of your career is very important. And if you are not identified, you might as well move on. Good luck!
@4Ixoy+16zEvLP3
No wonder you decided to leave lah.
Anyways, a good move, regardless
I left the company a few years back, was only just promoted to CL24 at 5 year mark despite being rank at top third every year. So, either everyone is too optimistic or I've been shortchanged hahaha
@4Icfv+16zEvLP3 After 5 years and you are only CL23?! You are lagging behind your peers. You will know what I mean in the coming years.
young scholars are exiting, more to come!
those people are high flyer or mobil scholars, don't compare
Join at 22 la..
Above average performer here.. same, still cl23 after 5 years at age 30
Cannot be lah! You joined at CL23, worked for 5 years, and now still it CL23?
POFMA!
Below average performer here. Still at 23 CL at 30 after working for 5 years.
SG is known for having a lower CL than global, just that it was not communicated to us
It just means your boss is not aggressive in giving you promotions. It’s possible to hit CL25 by 30.
May want to do up your resume. Your boss may not be treating you as well as he / she claims.
CL25 after working for 6 years? I’ve ranked top third/outstanding every year and I’m no where near that after 6 years haha..
Salary range used to be a function of:
(1) CL Level
(2) YEE (= Years of service + 18)
(3) RGP (= your rank group percentile)
However, since the Ranking system was replaced by Performance Appraisal, the concept of RGP is irrelevant now - and HR has not updated management on how the new salary planning system (and also promotions) will be revised.
Not that it matters now, since salary increments had been frozen since Jan 2020 and the urgency for managers to do salary planning and promotions (usually in early-4Q of each year) has taken a back seat, for now.
what is CL25 salary range at 30-31?
Shoot to attain a DH position by 36.
It has and can be done.
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Forget about salary.
If you are male and have served NSF, after working 6 years, you ought to be at least a CL25, by age 30/31.
Bring that forward by 2 years, if you are female.
Anything less and you are under-performing.
No longer valid. Going forward, u will see sh---y increments. Want higher pay and better prospects, join shopee instead.
thank you for response. we should all try to benchmark here
6000-7000
For total 6 years working exp, how much should my gross monthly salary be here?
No more peace out. More like pieces and pieces of our dignity out, with each day goes by and HR doing their best to drill home the point that we are overpaid and underworked - and that we deserved to get our AWS cut and pay frozen. Sucks to be a junior employee without enjoying the good times company had to offer in the past.
Is it still cool to use peace out to end an convo? Lol, your age is showing boomer
Should have moved out long ago. If you haven’t, you are as d-mb as rocks, or too highly paid to be hired outside. It definitely can’t be you believe in the We are ExxonMobil bu-----t, can you?
It is time to move out from EM unless you want to stay and work like a slave
voices here help us employees understand the reality, not for management/HR. Sometimes they do peep, esp the stinky ones and they know it themselves. when asked, they act like no idea.
Don’t complain about the ang mohs here - there’s always been cases where you wonder how did this person get this expat posting. It’s not the first time, nor will it be the last time.
How about you stop whining, stop kpkb in a forum where no one gives a sh-t, certainly not management nor HR, and start working on your resume writing and interviewing skills, so that you can get the he-l out of here?
You want to stay in EM, then suck it up and start brown nosing your boss boss boss, so that you can be the undeserving jerk that does some big job.
Peace out
@4Grhx+16zEvLP3 It’s an art
The SSM Mngr is the ONLY DM that has been through/under three(3) different RMs here!
All the other DMs around him have been flipped over the last 10 years, or thereabouts.
SSM manager still an expat after all the workforce study, he must be efficient with what he is doing all these years.