Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

The very friendly and cooperative working environment in EM, where the experienced ones mentored the new/younger employees will be gone very soon. What EM has done was making the working environment very toxic and detrimental to personal improvement. Employees will become very selfish in terms of helping each other and sharing knowledge/experience for fear that they may fall behind in ranking to the colleagues they helped and into the bottom 10% and then PIP? It’s everyone for themselves then and if there are opportunities to “steal” ones credit, they will do it. There are other negative impacts to this new culture.

Hope the Management recognises this and correct it before it becoming ingrained permanently and they employees don’t trust each other.

As managers, we don't differentiate average or mediocre performers (excellent, very good and good). Priorities are only for OWD.

Check this out, we have our own forum board here:

/exxonmobil-singapore

or

https://www.thelayoff.com/exxonmobil-singapore

The OWD category “quota” was increased to 8% only in this year’s PA - to balance the 8% NSI (to be PIP’d) at the other end.
This gives impetus to reward more of our deserving top performers.
Last year’s bottom-heavy 8% NSI (with no adjustment made to OWD) was for a different purpose altogether - which is to truncate and sever the bottom-of-the-barrel.

@5Dcup+16zEvLP3 so that's for like less than 5% of employees? And what about those who got Outstanding-With-Distinction last year but not this year?

Mid-term salary adjustments will only be given to those in Outstanding-With-Distinction PA category.
Awaiting specific guidance from HR.

If there’s no mid term adjustment to your salary in the country, the management doesn’t care about attrition in your country: fact: Singaporeans are always perceived to be overpaid and perception is reality!

Because the people who have worked long enough see their pay rise so much during the good times find it difficult an equal pay job elsewhere.

If a person is doing well in ranking, there is also minimal reason to leave. The company will continue to pay well to those they think are derserving.

Can someone explain to me why there’s still so many people working here if it’s such a sh-t ho-e? The attrition numbers are so
Manageable and all the managers are extremely comfortable. One senior leader even mentioned the attrition rate is within expectations, and already planned for.

Many new initiatives because every manager/supervisor needs one to put them in a good limelight in next rank cycle. This plus the frequent movements, you can imagine how many new initiatives are created. There no centralise effort that looks into sustainability of the ideas. When things change direction, it is justified by saying we need to be nimble. No end to this. Create something, then alter it in name sake of efficiency and finally remove it because it is totally useless. And we celebrate as if its
a success in every of such cycle. But in actual, its going back to where things were in the beginning. Not saying all are such. But a good number of them are. Its hilarious just thinking about it.

No matter what this company is SLOW. And change management lack of good execution skill set from all kind of managers. Look at all kinds of transformation, change, strategy shift, KLTC, BMR, value chain, culture shift, many of these are very superficial and create chaotic rather simplification. It didn’t hit bottom line, that’s all. One way to avoid this is to eliminate managers and remove middle man. Why do you need a middle man to pass a message and collect feedback, and spend most time thinking inside the box

this works now:

www.thelayoff.com/exxonmobil-singapore

These em sg are delusion thinking they are high value. No wonder getting replaced by foreigners in their own country and outsourced.

lol what a stupid comment. imagine thinking everyone in Dallas is as ignorant as you. I’m sure they think that way that’s why malaysia has multi billions of EM investments and assets. joke

Dallas and Houston can’t tell the difference between KLTC and Singapore. To them, it’s the same Asian backwater and they will just go with wherever is a cheaper place, so to KLTC it is.

This is not an attack on Malaysians. It's the hard truth. Their fresh grads are not even worthed 1K sgd. The smart ones have already left to find jobs in stronger currency countries. Yet these clowns can't see beyond SiNgapOrEans aRe OveRPaId?! Of course overpaid compared to people who don't know their worth. Wait till they see how much the US counterparts are getting. Take that kltc job and stay poor

In my past decade with EMAPPL, the only free fruit received was the usual box of half-rotten mandarin oranges distributed during Chinese New Year and you’re made to believe that this was the greatest gift ever bestowed upon you, just like your PIP/PIL.
Throwing you breadcrumbs, and your survival is contingent upon your ability to savour it as if it were a lobster brioche from a Michelin star restaurant. Unless you have masochistic tendencies, please get out because you deserve better.
You need to believe that there are plenty of decent workplaces outside of this cesspool.

@5Avtx+16zEvLP3 Management doesn’t even want to spend money on fruits. You Singaporeans are already overpaid. If you want fruits, buy it yourself. And don’t keep complaining, snowflakes.

Dear @5Axsc+16zEvLP3, why are you attacking KLTC? That’s not the way good employees should behave. Whether the Company move some jobs to KL has nothing to do with the KLTC staff. It’s the Management who decide, after taking into account the skill, knowledge, drive and most importantly, the cost. If KLTC comes up top, then it means that Singapore staff is not competitive. So instead of running them down, compete with them to retain the jobs here. Let’s not behave like some country who try to beat competition by “attacking” and demonizing the other country with lies and no evidence.

We, Singaporean are much better than this.

Company do well, everyone cheer. Just because down cycle, then complain so much like guniang. weak

I heard from my colleague that one of MC members in today dialogue session mentioned "he will still execute PIP and retrenchment exercise the same way again if given that pandemic circumstance" because somebody asked whether it was success or failure with that exercise.

The damages have been made, as outcomes - attrition rate is higher than expected, lost many talents to competitor companies, low moral at the moment, company's reputation and employees' trust have been broken.
There is still no learning yet to handle differently, yeah? HR training alone to conduct PA result won't help much without addressing root cause of creating anxiety for employees.

Something crossed my mind, is it that kind of standard MNC's management has? Is it running as my grandma's coffeshop business, hire and fire staffs on need basic without any foresight? Retrenchment is inevitable - who made mistake of overestimating market to hire until over-staffs??? Nonetheless, it can be handled differently without much damages.

Most people resigned under your section, departmart or division, you failed as a manager since people don't want to work under you. Isn't it manager job to inspire his people to get full potential to contribute for the organization?? Every talent the comapny lost today, they will be helping the competitor comapny to grow. Management will need much effort than giving a small box with fruits to bring up morale of employees

How many supervisors indeed know the plant well and have good interpersonal skills to run the team? So far I have yet to see one. Most job are led by senior technicians as they remain as anchor for their reporting organisation. Supervisors are not required. Company can save cost by hiring an admin staff to manage technicians leaves, OT, performance appraisal, LPO and so on (and they can do it even better). Supervisor promoted mostly by PULLING relationship and this is one contributor of downfall. Wipe out these middle man and spend the money wisely.

Clerk salary maybe $4.3k and supervisor salary range managers and HR should know it better.

There is no need to reclassify them as well. They had taken enough advantage from the company. Example, asked technician come back for overtime to do their job (not their money ma. Win win situation. Ah Gong coffin money. Not my one. Just call OT to do my job. So, I can lebak one corner)

KLCC hardpressed to have more work go their way. Why? You won't get Singapore kind of salary anyway. Even if you join 3rd tier company in Singapore, you will earn more with the currency exchange. But alas, Malaysia Boleh. Small salary boleh. Do sh---y job also boleh.

Supervisors are reclassified as technicians. This is very political.

@5Asfk+16zEvLP3

That’s why U NSI PIP lor hahahah

But all these sharing have not exposed before is very useful for really good people and talented people, but also good for normal people so that the strategy to optimise own destiny and path become clear, benefit young folks, to make wiser career choice, like some CL and salary information you’d never hear from ppl the truth. And Performance assessment has lot to do perception. Whether the right strategy or not, right decision or not doesn’t matter, it’s that perception and relation matters. You also don’t need to speak super well to be in executive positions, nor you need extra foresight and visionary, which lead to current state of situation. It maybe quite common in any large legacy corporations, yeah rich history but lack of innovation and visionary management, anyway continue to prepare my CV and if there is good opportunities will move for sure .

Never mind la. Bo bian liao. Bad decisions by Dallas, all kenna, including worker bees. You already know it’s not going to be fair. If it’s fair, DW and his team should be NSIed and PIPed. Just accept it and find a new job. If no better choices, then of course stay and take the sh-t lo. No point come forum ji ji wu wu. Spend the time and effort wisely, brush up your resume, and of course, shout we are ExxonMobil in the meanwhile. You never know when it’s going to come in useful for your PDS, in case you don’t get to leave the company.

@5zunl+16zEvLP3
Why do you think KLTC is better than SG site engineers? Manufacturing site doesn't need another KLTC PE: powerpoint engineers (not professional engineers) who remotely read equipment manual from vendor, telling what to do.
Even some of our young fresh grad engineers are struggling to contribute value added engineering solutions to the plant design. The problem is we do not have any hands-on and adequate technical training programs.
During initial two years of EM career, BTL always asked me RCFA and recommendations on equipment failure. The only thing I did was asking vendors and just delivered the message. To be honest, we learnt the hard way. I spent most of my time speculating risk scenarios to develop RA and MOC stuffs rather than technical calculations. I can see some of the engineers think themselves as SME. Anyway, this is how we have to market ourselves to justify increments.

It is higher paid but not overpaid. If you consider amount of work, effort, time, resources our technical engineers spent vs other companies. My take would be comparable.

More work = more paid

But there are some act busy people as well. They are in all functions. These people tends tell others they very busy, whole day chit chat and keep telling others they very busy, send out email past midnight then tell others they are hardworking. These people are overpaid for their poor acting skills.

A lot of whiners in Singapore too, despite being so overpaid and expensive site

Stop spreading fake news.. KLTC >>> SG
And sg is too expensive..

When is the next round for PIP?

Singapore site should be one of the best performer in this company & in this field. Except PD (digital manufacturing) & LPS group. I find them do not have the quality & job scope does not bring real value to the company. These departments are created mainly for people with sugar daddies and sugar mummies. I only respect real hard working engineers & managers that are true leaders! I am sorry if I offended PD, LPS group and bias managers. There will be people who agree in this view

I don’t fully agree with @5yrvo+16zEvLP3‘s comment on the 300 laid off are at the bottom of the pack. Many of them are experts in their field of Speciality but due to the age (or close or passed retirement age) they are laid-off. Of course there are some who did not do that well. How can one say that an employee who has chalked up 20-40 years are no good?

The 300 that were let go or in PIP are bottom rate for sure

I want to echo and repeat what @5xfyc+16zEvLP3 said- Singaporeans are world class. I’m a long time employee from Africa.

I want to echo on what@5wtzk+16zEvLP said. Singaporeans are top rate no doubt about it. I'm a long service EM employee from Eu.

#WeAreExxonMobil
#GoodVibesOnly
#NoFud
#ExxonIsTheBest

Another long service US EM employee here. I want to re-iterate what @5wipf+16zEvLP3 said. Worked with many in Singapore and all were first rate.

Hey @admin. Can we get this troll cr-p by Post ID: @5wnie+16zEvLP3 off of here?

The last comment was clearly a troll tossing a grenade. Don't fall for it. I am a retired U.S. employee who worked a great deal with Singaporeans and visited Singapore many times over the years. I can tell you from personal experience the Singaporean work force in EM is top rate. I don't know of any EM employees who would agree with the comments made by @5wnie+16zEvLP3.

And a quick note to @5wnie+16zEvLP3. You are really a disgusting person to try to invade this site and inject such a poisonous comment. Clearly you have never worked for EM. While I find you revolting, in another way I feel sorry for you. You must be deeply disturbed and unhappy inside. I don't say this to insult you, but rather to ask you to wake up, step back, and take a look at yourself. Is this really the way you want to be? Are you proud of yourself? If you can try to be honest with yourself, you can change and turn your life around.

We don’t need locals in Singapore for useful things. We can send 1 smart American expat to replace every 20-30 wanna be white Asian Singaporean to handle the work. We don’t need natives. They are just crowd. White Americans are the leaders.