Is Singapore's turn now to see the great resignation?
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@8jnfl: you mean Chairborne Rangers? 🤣
Rumor has it that PIP rate for 2022 is still at 8%. Let’s shout We Are ExxonMobil! This is proof that PIP is really a tool to improve performance and not a layoff tool. We have swung back to profitability but there’s still 8% of us not putting in their fair share of effort, so we need to help them. So get ready to work on your improvement plan or your resume folks. Good luck!
One country jobs lost another country gains… part and parcel of the game.
Many jobs can be found here:
https://jobs.exxonmobil.com/search/?q=&locationsearch=India&startrow=25
Insiders leaked 2022 - 2025
HW3 = How and Where We Work for F&L and TMTS = Transforming Manufacturing Technical Support for Engineering Services are outsourcing them to KLTC/BTC.
My advice is to shift to somewhere which is more career prospective.
WTF em after happily PIP good hardworking loyal people now getting our help to recommend friends and relatives to join em now even no experience needed also can
Signs of panic desperation or what
Make tiktok video lah to attract new talent
Heheheheeee em ohhhh em
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Yes, I agree that there are a number of incompetent nMPT FLSs in this forum, spewing their convoluted re--rd views ….. to “cho hee” only.
Their only purpose is to inject angst and anarchy into this forum.
About 35% of those in CL25-and-below cohort were promoted in Jan 2022, to the next CL (though not necessarily to a higher appointment/position).
And except for the NSIs, everyone got a decent salary increment.
So I suppose a major segment of those staying behind, have a greater reason now, to look forward to knock-on promotions, to backfill senior positions that have been vacated in 2021.
And with that, more $increments$ coming!
Upward mobility now looks so a lot more real and attainable for many, with some positions above having already been shedded.
So good luck to all!!
Haha. Key board warriors making noises in forums.
Seems like a lot more loyal employees in Singapore, willing to plant trees and shout we are ExxonMobil than the group here is willing to accept. There will be no lack of people staying! Take your negativity to the Shell job board instead!
Did attrition pick up in Jan at all? I thought supposed to have exxodus?
Search “Dead Sea Effect”. This can be accepted through empirical observation. HBT, those left are highly competent enough to be marketable. What remaining are mixed of loyal and incompetent ones like our nMPT FLSes. I guess many technicians have enough of being leech/abuse by their ‘anyhow’ authority. Please start the cleansing ritual soon. I am not going to recommend my close friends and family to join this company unless absolutely no other option.
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You must be a low-performing DH then.
Don’t forget that one’s salary is a function of CL, RGP and YEE. Hehe
You don’t know what you don’t know.
DH don’t have 30k la. I should know, I’m a DH. If you are holding out for a 30k payout, please don’t do that. Less opportunities in SG. Take care of yourself.
Maybe what you said is true, or were true, that the DH's were holding things tight and making things work.
But, is that what they are supposed to be doing? Did anybody ask them t take this? Whatever you had described here like hiring new employees, looks the only usful things that they are doing, and even for that, and the bullshiiit you menimtioned about blablahblah they have been going thru all the sh-t that happened to the working bees, I am sorry I really cannot be compassionate, I cannot be compassionate to a person who is earning 30k monthly who is doing a simple HR job, for me it is worth only 3k.
So essentially, the question is, do you really need those DH's who are just doing what you described? Can a second line do it?
And, apologize first, from what you are saying, I feel Compex engineer is as useless as DH. You guys are the fat in this orgnization that make things slow yet spending more money than competitors.
you write and sound like a complex I know. Good to see you here ^^
I am a Complex and I think the DHs are really the ones holding the fort now and running the whole manufacturing sites’ show.
They have also stepped up the re-hiring of new engineers (including experienced hires) to maintain the balance and competency at support levels, despite the attrition.
So to the naysayers here, IMO, the DHs do deserve their >$300K pa salaries lah (plus nice houses and posh cars too).
Let’s give them credit, where credit is due. After all, they too are faced with the same sh-t thrown to all of us (yes, salary freezes and PIP included) by DW and his team.
I rather spending more time sending my resume than writing EADS, totally waste of time and 8% PIP/PIL is still a nightmare to many.
saw more sls becoming dtl but with no decent technical skill set. No good role model in the company anymore.
People (specifically supervisors) just come and go...
E.g. Cost DTL became Supervisor, done nothing but just time pass...no knowledge on subject...talk to big bosses on susbject...
Also seen partiality....i think lost hope already....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
so many fxxking DH meh?
Useless lah, title so big but doesnt know anything, only knows how to FLY.
the management skills in EM is useless in the outside world, and the feelings that you feel you are controlling everything as a DH is just deluded.
Inevitably, EM is becoming a normal and common company, with less competent remaining, and attracting only the less competent candidates applying for the job opening.
The drama and ongoing PIP are scaring away the top talents who donnt want to waste their time here.
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Don’t count your eggs too early . You are enjoying the ride now bec you are young . I was there too… the big question is how long do u think ur runway? At most another 10yrs . Em puts rejuvenation over experience. Mark my words … ur days will come lol
@8fcco+16zEvLP3 Very flawed sentence composition. It is hard to believe you are capable of being a DH.
NMPT and DH wannabe? LOL! Grow up boy!
@8ewgw+16zEvLP3
I am also very happy, having remained in EM and earning high pay.
A DH before I turned 37.
I never had to please my boss, nor struggle every year, to avoid any PIP.
Consistently receiving EM stock options for almost every year.
For me, it all comes naturally … no need to look outside.
Doing with intent to "show face/publicity", believing in the cause or both?
Kudos to 100+ employees at Singapore who planted more than 400 trees across Jurong Island’s main highway in just one day!
What a great post on LI !!
From Gan to GC, you already know how much standards have fallen in one generation. Singaporeans, save yourselves - look for new jobs bah. I’ve left and a lot happier now with higher pay and don’t have to worry about pleasing my boss and avoiding PIP.
A dying corporation has signs, drop out from Dow which means industry make up has shifted, smart capital management fund shy away from these risk in long term, Buffet sold his holding long ago, ppl leaving, downgraded rating, unhappiness in the work place, fail to attract top talent, asset heavy, high cost to produce product, arrogance, ignorance, lack of innovation, high risk working environment, complicated work process, promote ppl power corruption practices, legging in competing space, you name it what current status is to make it float/survive that’s all won’t have anymore benefits like in the past high pay rise, good business travel opportunities, fat expat package, hotel training classes…because the needs to put money back to shareholders not employees. Want to join or continue to work in this kind of environment, make some smart decision and decide early where and which fish tank you want to swim in the next 20-30yrs. It’s the fish tank more important than the capabilities of the fish, very capable but in the wrong fish tank you will regret in 20yrs time while no one can predict 20yrs from now but industry revolution history will show some light.
Ang moh always gets priority in this company and country.
Ang moh road rage: self defense
Singaporean road rage: as----t.
So what you expect any difference in this American company. Go practice your American slangs and lingo - might help to bring your POT up.
2022 em chemical joke
Making survey why people stay why people leave
Fool of jokers lah this em mgmt
You think even after survey and data collections things will improve and get better meh
Yes things will change but for the worse and more worse than now and before this for sure
More and more people will leave for sure
PS ....pls invite select those oppositions only not the company yes man if you want the real honest reasons ok
If not HR is just wasting time and things will get from already bad to worse for sure
We are exxongoodbye
not suprising, there is a Process Sect Sup from Lab background
I am not surprise even if a business background person becomes a process section supervisor. The older process folks whom the young supervisors rely on will one day retire. If there is no strong backfill at that level, I foresee the plant will have issues. This is when musical chair game stops.
If an Electrical background can be a Technical SLS, this company confirmed game over.
If a Machinery background can be a Fixed Equipment SLS, this company confirmed game over.
I believe many people will agree with me. This is one of the contributor to what had happened now. Sadly, my supervisor/manager do not agree with this point. He/she do not believe that last batch of management promote people without looking at accreditation but based on what others promote (e.g. relationship).
It's a game in EM and reward is big. Play it right, you may win. What game is it? That's for you to find out. It definitely does not rely on technical skill, at least not a large fraction. Still stagnant in your position and you have been working for 7-10years, you have practically lost the game. Unless of course you are at the top already, can't move anymore right since this is a US company and amgmo gets priority.
The problem about staying while you are no leader (in EM context) is you continue doing your scope of work, which you will come to realize it's so narrow, and so EM centric. You will feel the comfort of staying in your position because of the pay. You may be lucky to move to gain new experience internally, whether it is something you like or not. But that also becomes lesser as time passes. Your skill may be confined if you don't take any action to improve beyond doing your work. Sooner or later, age catch up, you may fall into cruise mood, and your career will be dictated fully by the people above you. There is nothing you can do because no one hires EM centric with general skillset (for some positions) with such a pay and worse still you are the quiet one with little inter personnel skills. That's truly the end of 30 years of 9-5 job. I have seen many older colleagues who has to keep up just to put food on the table. Some days are fun with laughters with colleagues but beyond that it's just you know.... Surrendering your live over to corporation. When oil comes down, there goes your 9-5 job as well. Take action, get out of the rut early (if you are in one) so you won't regret. MONEY is not everything, if you have the time still.
EM SG is all about showing "leadership". If doing real work, burn and sweat only, you may get up to a lead/advisor or lucky ones gets some supervisory flavor. That's it. Live with that throughout your career. If can bear with that, money may be good still compare to outside. Just don't fall into low rank because high flyers with "leadership" climb above you. And PIP becomes your friend. They who are your juniors will one day give you direction and your ranking dependent on them. Can live with it? Good you will be rewarded with still good pay while it last.
Use to be good place to do real work until they messed up by promoting "high flyers" because of "leadership" capability. These people sitting on throne throwing questions at every corner, coining their so called own initiatives, and promoting their own kind. Those that can work, get things done but have less exposure because they are simply quiet by nature are thrown in doing rubbish work and these people will take forever to move up the ladder. Finally, they sack these people when times are bad and branded them as valuable but not align with company culture with little prospective. And now oil price back up to $80. I hope to see things turn around because I owe some career progression to some people in the company.
what a joke at Chemical site.
the newly appointed PMTE for some BUs have no technical (or even any) background of their process plant.