The "emperor" has no clothes. No one is telling the truth.
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Alama, if u do not like your manager, try to transfer to other depart, if not get away from this company,, if you depend on your from salary only, otherwise you can stick to this company,,, most of the managers will be there for 2-3 years only then they move.... You need to tolerate only 2-3 years... Hold on your frus n vent it away. Better get away
Managers morning do ocvm afternoon do ocvm evening do ocvm
Then write report technician dunno anything
KNN got nothing else better things to do is it
@b8hsh+16zEvLP3
Liesss la. Managers are the worst pu----s ever. Only know how to fake smile and sell lies. Knn only id--ts fall for your sh-t
@b8hsh+16zEvLP3
Great! It’s always good to show who’s in control - not only during meetings, but deep into their PA outcomes, career advancement, promotions and increments.
You’d need to inspire them and lead, yet make it clear that you have them all under your full control. Literally, their future in the company, all in the grasp of your hand.
So the only way out for them, if they will not (or do not want to) yield, is to leave EM.
I think that’s the best way to part ways amicably, if mindsets, plans and ambitions do not match/align - without besetting any acrimony.
As a manager, during meetings, I will always shut the “empty vessels that make the most noise” early in their game ….. unless they have a brilliant idea, or a strong point to counter.
Some of the reactions I’ve got range from raised voices, negative remarks and the likes. But shut them off, I still will.
Better still in a Zoom meeting, as a facilitator, I could force-mute them if they go out of bounds! Especially those that go on and on, berating on the same thing ….. and going off topic.
Some always butted in when the seniors discussed the project and was akin to an empty vessel making the most noise just to score points. Over here you don’t need to know how to do and who you know is more important!
@b6myr+16zEvLP3 Well said! Working hard for the company will get you to the eventual dumpster. With the honour of being labelled as a terrible performer and an unwanted worker in EM. Imagine the shame you carry with yourself, how will you feel looking at your love ones carrying the tag of NSI. Yucks I would say!
Do more ECAs, these are the one that will you get more points in ranking, some things are intangible however essential.
It is even clearer now that the company has changed its approach towards employees . It’s a transactional relationship no longer a partnership. So think for yourself from now on, when there is better opportunity or prospect , just leave …no emotional attachment . The company thinks everyone is dispensable ( except the Execs ) . So let them sail the ship…. Sometimes , talk and talk is useless . Action is the most realistic ….. we shall see how the dragon boat can sail without the rowers but only the drummer . It will be an interesting experiment to conduct .lol
To the Senior Technician that wrote this:
“Honestly, supervisors don’t deserved (sic) to make $10k a month while contact engineers are quitting to greener pasture. Everyone should just take a senior technician package regardless of year of services (sic). Same job, same pay.”
I think that you are really off your bonkers.
Smells strongly of CCCP leh! Or do the symbolise themselves as simply “Z” nowsaday? :D
Do you think any company, not just EM, can attract a Section Head / Second-Line Supervisor position with a mere $8K or less salary? Wake up soldier!!
Relax. Just relax and have fun doing what you're doing. Don't worry so much about being results-oriented.
Chill out, relax and have an open mind.
chill guys, if you are a refinery technician and not happy, just quit lo. Shell and other plants are taking in so many technicians who are trained. Check with your peers who left, compare the $, work load and culture.
No need to whack each other anonymously. Reason why we are all here is because of tmts, pip, layoff etc.
@aYlrl+16zEvLP3
You’re a typical complain king who grumbles and reports others’ faults. In army, you’re just a recruit level but you talk like you can replace sergeant or officer, or thinking you can be better than a general. Do you know why company hires you as a technician and not as a department head?
What is RS?
This RS kept posting on LinkedIn, really annoying. The term family makes me sick, when times were bad, EM turned its back on us. Next wave of NSI nasties will learn to appreciate this so called “family” treatment.
@aYlrl+16zEvLP3
What about the DHs earning >$20K/mth (SME directors’ pay level) and amassing multi-million dollars by the time they retire ….. owning landed properties, status symbol cars, putting children in prestigious overseas universities, and living a luxury lifestyle?
They do even less work than the SLSs, IMHO!
Can any technician afford that kind of wealthy lifestyle? No I think not - unless they have a side income own business, or strike 4D / TOTO.
So what differentiates one from the other?
A University degree ….. of at least a Second Upper, if not First Class Honours.
That makes the difference!
You ought to have studied harder when in school, but I guess, it’s too late for you to play catch up hor :(
By early-Sep, or sooner.
When will they communicate the ranking results?
@aYlrl+16zEvLP3
Might as well say DW also no need. Coz he takes instructions from board of directors. Everybody is being used or using someone in some ways. Welcome to reality.
I do not see them leading but rather behave like a messenger. It is always the Technical provide the data and decision are made by PMTE lead. I am curious what is the role of supervisor apart from conveying messages. This role hold no responsible as well. It is always the technician are fault because they do all the work. A person who make no mistake is someone who never do the work.
Their coordination skills is literally using Person A answer to provide guidance to Person B. Then using Person C questions to test on Person A…. Gosh! Any experience technician can do this. I guess we just have to rotate this role and make all take the same salary package. Honestly, supervisors don’t deserved to make $10k a month while contact engineers are quitting to greener pasture. Everyone should just take a senior technician package regardless of year of services. Same job, same pay.
They have made enough and some even managed to retired as millionaire. Please spare a thoughts for young engineers and technicians who are competent but being used
There are changes in employment...
There is job or company in this world of internet job security...
The herds of job seekers always job around for green pastures..
Congratulations on moved away from here.....
Any where you go, there need someone to lead a group of chicken 🐓🍗🐓 into their organisation goals....if there are no leaders, then this group will be head less less chicken running around with no directions ...
You would not realize all this untill I pit in their shoes....
Soon you will realise all this n come to have good experience then you come n go I've your valuenhere..
They are all leaders
Leadershit of em right from the top
@aWjwa+16zEvLP3 LMAO! Do not call them leaders!
i think many leaders fail to understand that their role is not to get paid more for doing less.
they ought to know that the reason that they are better paid and placed in this leadership position, is to help the team achieve more. And they got to walk the talk.
And not just using buzzwords, sweeping concerns brought up under the rug, and let their subordinates struggle with the workload.
Although I can see why this is a surefire way to maximize their "performance".
Push your subordinates beyond their limit to do more (not bothered about their mental well-being), then you can boast about your "achievements" for ranking. Repeat for another year, and you are promoted to your next better position. Who cares about this "short term" concerns of these subordinates?
Sometimes i feel that subordinates are being too nice to their bad supervisors.
Call them out, feedback that LTA behavior and support of theirs if the supervisors don't perform.
Again, i know this is hard when you perceive that your career would be at stake if you speak up on that. I was in that position.
Now that i've left, i regretted not doing the right thing. :(
probably that is why you see more and more lousy supervisors.
a good supervisor value adds the team.
i guess you've experienced a bad one.
sadly, my experience so far is that the ratio is tilted towards more bad supervisors.
Same job, same pay.
1 senior operation supervisor = 3 senior operation technicians.
But all the work are done by technicians. Company do not need supervisor to shake leg in the meeting room.
Employer think he is emperor. Dreaming.
This is because SLS preferred to collect status directly from FLS than going to technicians. This is about trusting FLS. But SLS did not know a lot of FLSes are giving false data in order to look good. When anything went wrong. They will blame the technician immediately. If not, ask the naive young contact engineer. Another issue is when technician fed supervisor so much info. They got this opportunity to learn without putting effort. Eventually they gain so much information and became Operation Advisor to extend their retirement. Some used technicians will be laid off due to old age with no promotion in their lifetime. Once removed FLS, we solve this problem. But another problem will form because nobody want to do the job due to no promotion. I am very sure ex-FLS will push this job to worker bees and say it is their turn to shine (without promotion). This is when you can see who are the real contributors in the organisation.
@aTpsw+16zEvLP3 You kana condemn by FLS lah. Thats why ex-ops.
WTF early morning start shift FLS ask to list your achievements for the quarter
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Malulah em
Tomorrow no need FLS lah
As an ex-Ops technician. I want to be transparent to the company. There is no need to have first line supervisor or even senior lead technician. Frankly speaking, there is no additional value added having them because whatever they are doing. Any experience technicians can do same job at lower rate.
By the way, my previous supervisor told me openly to carry his ba--s and his comrades. Be their Personal Assistance first. Only they are happy and opportunity arise you will be promoted.
What the heck, company is losing talent because of these scumbags. I am much more capable than them yet they are toying around my progression.
There is no need FLS of tomorrow. This should rename as no FLS tomorrow.
If they seriously that good. You will see their true colour after company removed this role. I will tell you! A lot will not perform anymore because they are not as good as you think they deserved.
I just ditched Em ops and join Shell ops, no one knows, no garden leave. hurray!
Wow 400k views ... well done folks!
Maybe we can start a new thread now? Or use the EMSongapore page?
The tech companies are going thru retrenchment which EM just did. Is EM in a better place ? If you think so , you deserved to perish with it. The current high price of oil is the last light before it diminishes . OPEC + is just buying time to try to squeeze as much from the mkt as it can… we can this milking the dying cow before it becomes a dead dog. If you are still hanging on , good luck. The emerging trend of renewables is a foregone conclusion so is the sunset and last light of oil and gas industry . With high oil price it only harden the resolve to break the Cartel and pivot towards diversified renewable sources of energy. When ecoy goes into recession, oil and gas will have another round of retrenchment … it has already gone down the slippery slope of destruction. I am building my passive income so that when this sinking ship sinks like the Hong Kong floating restaurant , I know that I can stay afloat . Good luck folks as we continue to row , row and row like the musical les miserables … while our execs (eunuchs) continue to dance and sing praises to emperor ‘s gown …..
I left EM for FAANG. Sure, my RSUs don't look as great as when I first signed but I'm still making more than I can ever expect at EM with my YoE.
Sure, I felt a tint of regret seeing XOM's price skyrocket, but it's not like it had any downstream impact on the payslip of most employees.
That said, after EM's retrenchment exercise, I learnt never to take job security for granted. I don't see my current employer as the one I'll stay with for decades, but rather as an opportunity to grow. Wherever the winds of industry blow, that's where I'll pivot to.
Tech got hit and manufacturing can stand the the wave that is coming? All sector will get hit. Only difference is which company treat their workers more fairly. Figure out yourself for those in EM. Goodluck.
Massive layoffs already happening at Tesla, Shopee, bitcoin-related investment & trading companies, Meta, Google, Microsoft …..
Very good! Go join them some more lah!
Some colleagues in regional office shared that 4.8k starting pay for some newly graduated? Is that true?
The tide sure has turned quickly for tech companies, folks who left for the likes of Shoppee, wanna come back to mothership?