Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Exxonmobil Singapore is laying off employees

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But there are indeed many EM staff (both NMPTs and MPTs) living beyond their means on stretched, over-leveraged loans - to support their living in luxury private condos and ECs, and driving expensive cars.
Yet earning only <$250K pa in gross salary nia, what with school-going children, need for tuition, discretionary CCAs like piano, violin, swimming, ballet, golf lessons and even more tuition.
With the current inflation and rapidly rising bank loan rates, many I know are struggling with their near-$1M mortgage loans! At 4.5%, smelly smelly, now paying $45K/yr in interest (only) to their banks! Haha

Not a very sound financial situation to be in.
So that’s why these people are so hard up for money!

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Post ID: @dpmoa+16zEvLP3

see the most recent two posts, confirm hipo sls come and stir sh-t.

this is layoff.com, you all hipo come here for what? want to get laid off is it?

if want to sneaking info I understand, then shut up and watch people telling their true thoughts. otherwise can fxxk off and enjoy your hipo path lah, why bother viewing the posts here?

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Post ID: @dpmup+16zEvLP3

Rental high, downgrade to a smaller HDB unit lor.
Expenses to high, eat less elaborate lor.

Eat less elaborate meals lor.
Economy chye png - 1 meat + 2 vege, chapatti & dahl, or nasi goreng sambal tumis ikan bilis … all cheap and nutritious.

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Post ID: @dpdsv+16zEvLP3

Rental high, downgrade to a smaller HDB unit lor.
Expenses to high, eat less elaborate lor.

Eat less elaborate meals lor.
Economy chye png - 1 meat + 2 vege, chapatti & dahl, or nasi goreng sambal tumis ikan bilis … all cheap and nutritious.

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Post ID: @dpxkt+16zEvLP3

Attrition rate is so high and more people still have plan to leave. I just hope that next week increment communication doesn’t disappoint more employees.

With high inflation for rental and living expenses, my salary even can’t cover for family expenses.
I am now in charge of major work in TA. But no point sacrificing myself and work until underwear wet to get PIP or low increments.
Good Luck to those who stayed back.

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Post ID: @dpxcx+16zEvLP3

Safety supervisor also tender before turnaround. Fantastic!

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Post ID: @dpopq+16zEvLP3

Really turning into co-k company with co-k mgmt people
Just becoz you cannot talk sweet cannot present like mgmt got slow old brain cannot remember to perfection stupid useless lpsa ocvm you got C grading
Anyway got C or Z i cant be bothered anymore
Can be proud started the plant safely from ground zero just do my job get paid and work safely till retirement sua lah
Next year get package ask to leave lagi the best
This was exxonmobil

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Post ID: @dpjnh+16zEvLP3

Coming closer to year end, this thread is becoming more and more active.

I think the increment and promotions will be communicated soon, after that, a lot will flee.

The fact this company only rewards the top 20% is clearly telling you that it only needs these 20% to thrive. The rest is just good to have, even if the bottom 50% leave, company will still make good profit, it is only some of the works are left undone, what is the big deal.

Company doesn't need you if you are not ranked top 20%, if you cannot leave it only indicates that you need the company to draw salary, that makes you more redundant and vulnerable, which again will make you an easy target for PIP humiliation. But of course, don't worry, PIP is not designed for cutting headcounts, it is only there to insult and humiliate you, if you are okay you can stay. Just I not sure how much is your tolerance level of such insult, hope you do not end up being mentally disordered.

This applies to all emplyees, including SLS DH and DM.

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Post ID: @dpxgc+16zEvLP3

@dokgl+16zEvLP3
You’re quite right there.
But the seniors (take MPTs >CL26) are not and never will be a static lot.
After a while, with their EM-brand name and experience, they can and will still find alternative, well-paint jobs outside - many as SMEs advisors and consultants.
And when they do leave EM one by one, this will create an even greater, unbridgeable “brain drain” gap - where the company will lose decades of cumulated experience.

What’s left in SGCX will be a bunch of “Indian-chiefs” all talking incoherently, with no clear line of sight in problem solving (due to their lack of critical-mass experience) … and solely relying on just procedures, JLAs and NLI/LIs!!

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Post ID: @dppjb+16zEvLP3

Straits time: Here’s why the night shift is putting your health at risk. Shift work contributes to a globally increased predisposition to several illnesses, including cancer, diabetes and heart diseases.

WLWLBBQ

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Post ID: @dodyb+16zEvLP3

Our complex left because our even our Dr cannot cure him, he left for a better one

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Post ID: @doovz+16zEvLP3

Even FEI complex also left, WLWLBBQ

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Post ID: @dovsr+16zEvLP3

Actually, the more senior you are (with higher pay) the more the company will likely push you down to NI or NSI … where there ain’t no increment for you - regardless of NSP guidelines.
This is a way of controlling cumulative SWB (Opex) growth when less-than-top-performing senior employees are deemed to having been paid too much already - across the yesteryears of pre-merger (continuing on for at least 10 years post-meger), where Esso and Mobil were one of the better paymasters in SG, with max employee benefits.
If you look at the comparative sliding-scale salaries for each category of NMPT and MPT jobs, it is the late-40s and upward (to RER) who get paid most, adjusted for inflationary effects over the past 3 decades.
While the company is trying their best now, to remain competitive in attracting new talent - they’d need to also readjust initial offer salaries to new hires in the current hot market (e.g. fresh campus engineer hires are now getting $4,800pm offers … never before!). But this all is a zero-sum game and the company has to take a cut from the same SWB pie, to make such offers right?
Thus the simplest step that could be (and has been taken), is to zerorise the increments of the more senior employees, over a protracted period of time, by parking them all into NI and NSI categories for each and every PA year!

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Post ID: @dokgl+16zEvLP3

You do turnaround for EM,later EM turnaround you with PIP. Not worth it.

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Post ID: @doanx+16zEvLP3

Good to see it’s not just the US being treated like this. At least xom is dealing the same rations of stuff everywhere. Toxic managers seems to be the common thread.

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Post ID: @doisi+16zEvLP3

Can't imagine people in PIP will still have to work hard during TA, with frustration and disappointment, likely things can go wrong.
Bolt in piping, gloves in heat exchabger, wrench in towers, sounds all credible scenarios.
Not saying these could be intentional, but accidental fallout is kind of expected. From probability point of view, certain percentage of those fallouts will actually result in real incidents, let's just hope nothing major.

Additionally, SSM technicians and operation technicians quitting right before TA will make the situation worse, you cannot expect fresh comers execute maintenance/startup work perfectly. You all know how much experience is required to make things right.

Folks, keep your eyes open and stay safe. Best of luck.

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Post ID: @doppq+16zEvLP3

PIP is coming soon for first quarter of next year, better flee before the turnaround. No point working so hard for EM now.

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Post ID: @dnvzu+16zEvLP3

Saw this female SLS scrolling layoff forum during SCP comm session. Haha perhaps she know that comm session Is a waste of time too

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Post ID: @dnrge+16zEvLP3

Everyday say safety first. Safety utmost priority. But workers are still being ferried on lorries to the plant. Don't even care about those workers transportation safety, what is safety first? Those safety bs, pls take a look in the mirror before chanting LPS, LPSA or what not la.

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Post ID: @dktje+16zEvLP3

sls lai liao

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Post ID: @djyww+16zEvLP3

ok lah guys, no more bushiiting here ok?
you all know that is not going to happen, like (technicians resign before TA) like (mass resignations), these are all just tiny little excuses that some of you try to use to bluff the SG management so that they can give you some peanut and make you happy for a while. that ain't gonna to happen. they also wont listen.
Pathetic.

TBH, SG workforce number is still higher than expected and chemicals are not making money, that is why you won't have much pay adjustment, you won't have one time pay like what they did for US UK, what you will have is increasing workload and PIP. Sadly many senior guys who had been ranked very well in their early careers now get PIP, because they are ranked against SLS even DH. By the time they are fed up and want to flee, sadly many are just too old!!!!!! so no choice, had to endure the torturing by his young hipo sls and playaround, end up mentally ill!!!!!!!

If you want to leave, leave on your own terms and conditions, donnt try to find excuses because you are the owner of your future career. Others leaving all have valid reasons, for you, you got to find yours as well.

TA is coming, with attrition in ES, ops amd maintenance, safety will be a bigger and bigger concern...or else, what do you think is the root cause of so many safety incidents this year alone?

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Post ID: @dicou+16zEvLP3

No mass resignation after taken 2021 bonus.
Surely NO mass resignation during turnaround. Talk no use!

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Post ID: @diuoe+16zEvLP3

Many more will certainly resign (or be asked to go) with EMPS transformation, Chem-Ref work process synergies and TMTS future state.

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Post ID: @dhiof+16zEvLP3

Resign before turnaround..

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Post ID: @dhdgs+16zEvLP3

Any insights from the NSP call? Heard supervisors attended the call today.

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Post ID: @dgawn+16zEvLP3

If every engineer/analyst vies to be a DH, DM, or higher, in his career chase within EM, then where will the worker bees come from?

Everyone also want to own a high-powered BMW/Merc - but only few can smell such cars.

Everyone also want to own and live in D10 landed property in SG, but few can materialise that dream - even till his/her end-career, or EOL.

Everyone also want to earn >>$400K-500K pa salary in EM, but how many can even get a chance to come close?

Thus the existence of the Ginny Index, to differentiate the people’s NW in every nation.

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Post ID: @dfsrh+16zEvLP3

the other reason your sup or his henchman or the Dr man will give you is 'you are not ready' for you new role, new assignment etc etc...count how many engineers in last 10 years succeeded in moving up the ladder to decide whether you should stick with FEI/M team/ any other teams...no future lah in this shxxt pxxt company and shxxt pxxt department.

Post from TheLayoff.com

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Post ID: @dfwhc+16zEvLP3

treating front line personnel like sh-t, the management deserve the retribution of facing mass attrition before TA. After technicians do their part, then it is the managers turn to do their part as well. Hope everythinf turns well.
anyway, the company will survive without anyone, including the soul-selling managers.
really wanna to see their faces when they got the resignation letters before TA, must be funny. can someone install CCTV for live streaming on that day?
guys, do it, you all don't deserve to be treated like sh-t.

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Post ID: @dezdy+16zEvLP3

Wah! Mass resignation just before TA will seriously cripple the site.
Bar bee que ler :(
Cannot parachute people from overseas at such short notice.

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Post ID: @degaf+16zEvLP3

Earned so much and yet don’t want to reward us. We ride through up and down with you during pandemic and also froze our 1 year salary. Don’t even bother to adjust back our lost time.

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Post ID: @deqaf+16zEvLP3

Saw from another forum that some technicians are planning to throw letter right before TA. How ah , shall we have engineers to top up number ? If not enough engineers, can we add the technical SLSs as well?

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Post ID: @deomx+16zEvLP3

when the month of Dec comes I guess we will see more people is moving out ?

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Post ID: @dehhr+16zEvLP3

Exxonmobil corp
From world class to now already highly toxic place plant programs and people

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Post ID: @dbtlu+16zEvLP3

Dr can decide your career tTf hor, Dont play play.

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Post ID: @dbbyk+16zEvLP3

Today my supervisor said I Lack of Soft Skill. He basically sugar coat it.

What he meant was I am goal oriented and s-u-k at playing politic.

Sad to said, good employee are always not recognised for their worthiness. Keep pushing for political leader and continue to corrode the core.

“The pipe appear good from the outside but freaking thin from the inside”.

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Post ID: @dbhky+16zEvLP3

As the wise Dr said:
"Beggars can't be choosers."

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Post ID: @dbgui+16zEvLP3

Y’all better stop it! Otherwise Doctor will transform from Dr 347 into Dr COO and CMG all of you!

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Post ID: @dbcpz+16zEvLP3

I think everyone in EM manufacturing knows why FEI and machinery engineers are leaving.
Direct cause: FEI Leadership mentality of follow me or PIP.
Root cause: Let's face it guys, No1 cares about working level.

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Post ID: @dagxw+16zEvLP3

Ya FEI leadership need to do some RCFA to get the root cause of attrition

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Post ID: @dadai+16zEvLP3

heard many FEI guys leaving including senior people, what is happening? Anything special ongoing?

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