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Look at SCP SLT.
Top man there is French. No?
Both Process and Tech DMs are foreign-born. No?
Most, if not all above them, are Americans / foreigners.
h-F&L / Ref SLT still have many locals.
Fuels VP, Fuels Trib Mngr, Lubes (B&W) RBU Mngr, Ref Process DM, Ref Tech DM are all locals leh!
EM hires too many foreigners? Report MOM.
Safety first, Huge ego Exec, SLT and ELT are all don with double hearing protection. That’s why they can’t hear us.
Oh no, another attrition in ES.
What the company wants and what it has been doing is very contradictory. Firstly, Company wants high performance talents, but it doesnt want to pay to that standard, that is the main reason why many department could not recruit experineced hires. Many years ago, good people queue to join EM they will join even without a payraise, now they will not join unless there is a huge payraise because they know they will suffer here, if suffering without good compensation, what for? - this is also applicable to existing employees.
Secondly, company wants to "streamline" (aka downsize) reources especially in expensive places like US Singapore, however they are still hiring in these places! Of course I know it is because the attrition rate was beyond expectation, but WTF, can you let us know what your EXPECTED ATTRITION RATE? That means the company wants to get people out with so called natural attrition tactics. For those who are joining now, mass layoff will wait for you very soon when oil price plunges, and you will find you get nothing but get fxxked by the company with "natural attrition"!
Thirdly, company wants good experinced people but they donnt want to spend effort to keep the existing good experienced employees. Watching 10+ years experienced people leaving is like watching black holes being created in that position, the black holes then absorb energy and morale and faith of people who stay nearby. EM management think anyone can take the job but that is not true, the experiences in those people will only be reflected when there is a big incident, where EM believes in its "perfect documentation and systems which enables anyone to pickup jobs in a day" - lets pray the big incident is not happening to you or me.
Enough said, I personally do not think they company can go anywhere unless they allow experienced outside management level people to join the ELT CLT CRLT and make decisions. People who are born with the systen have huge blind spots which they are unable to discover and even if they discover they choose to ignore because that was the system from which they were born.
That means it is a company-image problem.
The world had read about EM’s tanking financially big time on cash deficit … leading to asset divestments and massive layoffs across the globe.
And now, EM is re-hiring again, with all out gusto … no, no, desperation!
That means it a HR problem?
Don’t talk about local university graduates, even Poly and ITE graduates don’t want to join EM.
It is not EM doesn’t want to hire, the problem is local people like us don’t want to work in this hazardous industry with non attractive package.
Fresh grad will choose to join semicon or tech company with starting pay of $2.6k + shift allowance. How much EM pay ($2k based on Union book).
Do you want to climb up tower and work in furnace / boiler environment? I go out to drive grab earning more than that.
Last time standard of FLS in SSM are NTU / NUS graduates, now what do we have? Direct hire from those overseas?
With low pay, hazardous environment and tough job, we can only rely on those hard working foreigners since they don’t have any choice.
SSM hires all foreigners this time round. Why the local isn’t hired at all?
I suggest HR to give PIP to Employees who cannot bring in competent people rather than offering $600 referral fee. Maybe it will work better for EM.
Ggwp
I am one of the interviewers, let me tell you EM is having difficulty hiring top tier talent and experienced folks from SG market.
During my time, all FCH from local universities are desperately queuing to apply EM which is their first choice.
Now we can’t find suitable applicants from local market and even going to JB for interview to get people.
Of course there will be still people like Tom, Di-k and Harry with low competency and experience who wants to join EM but the standard will be getting lower. EM can’t retain those talents from local university because they can get better package and offer outside due to market value.
Of course MC knows well about that they have all graph and pie charts data from HR why people are leaving and average competency data in every section. This is where all RSU and referral bonus came in.
To those who wanna secure high paying jobs in EM... The one who wrote this... Have u wondered why EM didn't manage to get any1 our there "who wants the high paying jobs" and need to get their own EM staff to "bring friends in and get referral of 600" ???
There is something wrong here... Dun u think so ?
For those who don’t want, there will be lots more others who will want to secure high-paying jobs in EM.
And the stream of eager takers will be limitless. After all, ExxonMobil is a brand name!
They will be those even more “hungry”, with a strong passion to learn and also to upgrade their family’s life standard / well being.
Some … even to get out of the poverty cycle … wherever they come from.
So, it’s all relative huh.
Please only $600 and you want us to sell our friends to come here? To HR and hiring Managers, get a life. Becoz of your FAILURE, can’t hire someone and you’re using $ to make us to work for you? You guys should go soul-searching what is going wrong with our very good PIP system for improvements. Really a laughing stock.
Thousands from South Asia and SEA do desire to work in a US company, like EM, and earning in SGD.
Instant magnet!
HR, I will never soboh my friends lah!
I will never ask my friends to join EM, go shell or Shervon is much better
Come join us brothers:
https://jobs.exxonmobil.com/
New Employee Referral Program
$600 dollars per successful referral.
We had reached this level
Anyway, im amazed how this thread is still alive after years, thats what i call sustainability.
So many salty singaporeans. Stinky man.
Yall rather complain here than do real work. This shows headcount really can go down further.
What’s the latest of resignations after getting the AWS? Heard another ES SLS threw the letter today
How are our FEI brethren doing?
You talk as though this a SG company. Wake up lor.
Best mgmt and bootlickers all work in america surely will be greatly recognised and rewarded
Singapore complex can close shop early coz most employees are only counting days counting nites counting salary clock in clock out
# can make singapore great again or not
Agreed
Please close this thread. America does care about SG employees
Esso always shortchanged people as usual.
Ehhhhh and then?
Shell/Chevron sell the petrol of the premium grade/Branded. The branded fuel have some additive and cleaning agents that enhance the life of your car engine. The impact of the branded fuel cannot be seen in one day or months it can been seen after one year when your car maintenance will be less than the others. Also, better fuels mileage. You wouldn’t feel shortchanged, just like employment as well.
Fact of the matter is if you are working in the manufacturing facility, the vast majority of staff are employed to run the plant. One is paid and ranked based (PA) on the value they bring (job role) relative to their pay grade (CL). This is true for every company in the world. If you are a rainmaker at a law firm or investment bank, you get paid the big bucks and make partner accordingly.
So, unless one has shown the aptitude and willingness for being able to handle larger job roles outside the plant and SG (potential), its quite inconceivable to expect a constant salary increase indefinitely.
Note that a manufacturing plant is pretty much a factory - everyone working there is a factory worker.... sounds familiar to generations past? How much and how high can someone go making shoes? Gentrification has simply replaced shoes with fuels and plastics. The sooner you accept there is a bamboo ceiling here in sg working for an MNC, the sooner you'll be contented or make the decision to leave for greener pastures.
don't feed the troll
Wow classic example of self entitled singaporean salarymen. Proof your worth first before you post such things. I have seen many foreigners working harder and hungrier for knowledge than any singaporean who thinks they are privileged lot. Please don’t incite workforce discrimination!
Wow classic example of self entitled singaporean salarymen. Proof your worth first before you post such things. I have seen many foreigners working harder and hungrier for knowledge than any singaporean who thinks they are privileged lot. Please don’t incite workforce discrimination!
Since this is SG plant, locals deserve to be ranked outstanding or excellent only as default every year compared to foreigners. We aslo should get more RSU awards same like those higer CL managers. Should also entitle to get expat assignment regularly to Europe and US for SG locals.
At least SG Refinery Technical and Process Mngrs are locals .
SSM become foreigners site maintenance already. Some local left themselves. Some Local kana PIP then left. Is the ratio correct or not? Most of jobs are taken by the foreigners while the locals kanna lay off
SLS also???which division? Engineering services or Technical?
Another Engineer and SLS left us again, what is going on?
everyone happy with increment? Was the range between 5 - 20%?
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Lol biggest joke I've ever heard.
BPO best leadership and no complain??? It's more like the folks in bpo have given up. Hence all meetings are quiet.
You all call for lean la, do less with less la and all that nonsense motto, but nothing has been streamlined. Non productive workload remains the same, and the only "less" is, less manpower and less experienced capable folks.
Typical poor management mindset.
Yup thats exactly what I mean.
Rest assured that there will be people queuing to join EM Singapore, especially after this time of pay raise, which will raise the starting pay bar for experienced hires as well, for sure they will be attracted.
Why do you sound so sour and such. How does that affect you? Unless you are the group of self entitled 'smart people' who resigned before the big payraise was communicated and now started to regret, because your hopping raise might still be less than what EM will give to you.
If that is the case, I would advise you move on lah friend, the door is always open but to you it is a Non Return Door.