No need waste wasted wasting very precious time of ours sign up for bloody full of s––t bullsxxt farking nonsense useless PIP lah.
Really pity my friend after 35yrs of good service rewarded with PIP we feel for you
Just give us retrenchment package like those happy 300 settled case closed
Thank you very much and nice goodbye exxonmobil
See ya
# exxonmobil world class retrenchment
Nearly 90% of those who chose to take on PIP in 2020 completed it successfully. Keep it up for 2021 and everyone can witness again whether this is true
@3Rnck+16zEvLP3, it’s not worth it. Don’t get yourself in ‘hotter soup’ and give them the excuse to ‘kick’ you out. It’s their loss as lesser and lesser good people want to work in this Company, if things don’t change for the better.
Actually at this stage whoever could have left for a better job should have left. Whoever’s left either can’t or don’t have a better offer- which means EM is still the best known place.
Its hilarious seeing these people ranting and crying about the treatment from EM. But are actual yuppie dogs in the office.
C'mon dude, you know you cmi. Thats why you're still stuck here.
I agree with you
Be very careful of what you do and say
Dont ever let yourself doing intentional sabotage and get yourself into trouble with the law my friend
Be angry frustrated and voicing out is fine we are all feeling the same too
When the time come for em to kick us out so be it
Life will go on elsewhere my friend
@3Rnck+16zEvLP3 That is really childish and unprofessional. I am sorry if you were removed from EM through PIP or had been laid off. But please be reminded of the consequences of such statements.
Why can the worker bee stop working or create some plant issue, like the ship let the engine stopped. See what upper manager can do. They might just call meeting and depend the technical engineers to solve. What if the engineers also stop working? The ship will lost course and mught capsized in heavy sea.
"We are underwater ExxonMobil" : )
@3Qgyn+16zEvLP3 I presume you are am exec since you mentioned or alluded your fellow peer left as an exec .. in my recollection . There is no exec being laid off this round though it was mentioned in the announcement . Those so-called execs that left are due for retirement so what lies are u trying to propagate ? You and your usual 25000 ft perspective , as usual , overlooked the devils are in the details . You don’t build the organisation, but rather the worker bees so that you could continue to do your song and dance all these years to the global Mgmt and climb. You really think you are that good ? Let us watch how u going to steer this sinking ship all by yourself or with your so called “ performing “ peers ..... I shall see how long more can u perform ur song and dance ... I am waiting to watch your last swan song .
Very fu—g sure @3Qrfk+16zEvLP3 that there’s no increment for 2022. But I might be wrong - there might be $50-$100 pity increments given out. I’m not sure if you count that as increment or not my friend.
@3Qfla+16zEvLP3
Who is that safety officer? Say leh.
No increment in Jan 2022?
3Qzjp+16zEvLP3
Love your lpsa safety tool box talk.
Remember my once all powerful too knowledgeable all conquering safety officer going around plant asking checking permits and shot down employees and contractors as he was the untouchable during that glory days
Well he got fired and become a contractor and suprisingly servicing em plant
He lost his face authority when its our turn to demand check on his permit
Yes karma do exist so pls do the right humble things in life
You may be a big somebody today but you can also be the little nobody one of these beautiful days
Karma is not bullsxxt
Come on ! The pigs love to eat. Pigs are greedy .... the rest of the animals can go hungry but not the pigs. Otherwise how to maintain that size . Don’t you guys learn anything from animal farm? Having said , the f-t pigs will end up on the dining table one day.... life comes in one full cycle. There is a karma saying , “ one tree can make into many match sticks but one match stick can destroy the entire Forrest “ . Don’t devalue or hurt anyone in this life . You may be powerful today but time is time is more powerful than you. You might think you have the wealth ... but karma will rob your health ...
@3Qfrp+16zEvLP3 A troll
Our EM managers and executives
You MPT left with solid payout sprinting happily joyfully laughing loudly to the bank
We NMPT are subjected to bullsxxtt rubbish PIP and just a consolation payout of option A or B in the end still paid the lowest amount
What say you now em managers and executives
# PIP by exxonmobil
In my post under “@3Qilf+16zEvLP3”, there was a typo error in the last paragraph on “ f–e-warn” future employees.
Sorry about it.
To find reasons to PIP people.
Responding to @3Qgyn+16zEvLP3
Dear EM Manager, yes you are right that the “door is always open”. Have you ever thought of those who had worked for 30+ years and more and under the “assurance” understanding that the Company had been telling us that EM is a place for long-term career and they value good people. How do you expect such folks to “walk out” and start all over again?. Now all of a sudden, there is a huge lay-off exercise and this is made worst without the industry practice of retrenchment payouts to tie them for a while as they seek employment elsewhere or help them financially in the short term. The folks laid off are not poor performers and they are forced to leave under the PIP/NSI disguise. How can this be that EM boasts of hiring the best in the market and there are suddenly so many poor performers. What has gone wrong here, please enlighten us?
For the “open-door” policy, as EM want to adopt, then the Company need to be honest and make it clear during recruitment that the they will lay-off the bottom x% every now and then when business is bad and without compensation. Then you see what type employees will you get.
When one works for a company, there should be job security as long as he/she performs and has been told during the yearly assessment. No one seek employment for a Company like what EM is now, notoriously known for. I will not even dare to recommend any young and good guys to join EM now, which I would have strongly recommend in the past. It’s a very sad recent development that has changed my working experience in EM for over 35+ years, where i truly believed EM and proud to work for then.
The frustration we all feel is to ‘f–e-warm’ the younger folks not to rely on EM for long term employment and move on to more secure jobs after having been trained by EM, which the industry will welcome the “best” with open arms.
why em manager in here for? hmm
Wish to clarify - IMHO = in my humble opinion right?
It’s funny - because therein lies the oxymoron. You can’t be a humble EM manager. You are either humble or you are an EM manager. Suppose you are the latter.
I have to agree the level of saltiness in this forum has far exceeded the saltiness of the rubbish chicken chop rice dished out by Killiney’s at HBF.
I am an EM manager and have read the posts in this forum with much amusement (rather than chagrin).
Most of the issues raised are petty and personal.
Very myopic and narrow-minded views, IMHO.
If you want to really make it in life, or career, you’d need to step back and look at the larger scheme of things.
A fellow executive colleague of mine did the right thing, to jump ship and got a 25-month (max) compensation, for doing that!
The door is always open for anyone to leave, if he/she is unhappy with how things had turned out.
Enuf said.
michelin star meals? Paid by our pay freeze.
What’s wrong with GC seen dining at a Michelin-starred restaurant?
It certainly befits her salary and status as Chairman and MD of EMAPPL, and the Executive VP of EXTAP!
Do I sense some saltiness amongst her underlings here in this forum?
Sorry to dash your hopes here. No manager is reading or giving two s–t about what’s being said here, unless they are bored and want to read some jokers and trollers speaking. You know why- because every 26-27th of the month, the bank accounts continued to be filled up. In November / December, the RSUs continued to be issued, regardless of the state of the company. The boos are coming from the cheap seats or in this case, the low CL folks (ie CL < 29).
Bumped into GC at a Michelin star restaurant, so not sure what the issue is. The good times are still around. Can’t sell the RSUs for now- but looking forward to XOM at 100 again. Now just need to cut some of those non-contributing controllers, auditors or controls advisor, who’s costing the company $, adding the costs and dragging the XOM stock down. Waiting for GC to get this done, and boost my net worth.
A person expressed a sense of sadness for my case but ended with a “Lol” immediately. It means so much about this person character. All I can said is beware of those trying to get close with workgroup seniors/supervisors/managers but ignoring average honest worker bee. This kind of people are hypocrite that badmouth others during lunch time & they have hidden agenda.
Really love this forum
Things getting really fired up getting hot and hotter day by day
EM mgmt hope you join this forum too we love to read your feedback
This aint no slido no censored ok
# exxonmobil is gone
LCM-GC is a dump collector. Come on board to do nothing but to retrench workers and gives empty talks and c**ks. Leading a bunch of weak token WINs leaders like headless chickens not knowing how to manage a sinking ship. This is a perfect storm to mark the decease of titanic . A dump wood with a bunch of headless and clueless chickens - the new version of the animal farm at play ...
Those stayed just waiting for something to happen, no doubt. Just matter of time.
@3Qivb+16zEvLP3, you talk like a MF. You think you stayed you are safe . You are just a trash waiting to be dumped at your sell by date. How many old execs when reached their sell by date were not chucked aside. Less talk abt you is Low earthly wanna bee. Marked my words , you be cursed many more times .. you will leave in a much worse condition than many of your peers out there . Wait for your time AH!
By now we should know where we stand. Workload, responsibility and compensation are never realistic here. Some are paid more, move up fast, do less and knock off on time, you are considered to be well taken care and secured. If the opposite happens, means you are just rubbish or mediocre, then better plan for your future. Payment for bills, cars, housing and kids cannot wait.
Actually what are the objectives of all these rantings? Seek empathy? Vent frustration? Incite fear / riot? Focus on the future, not dwell on the past.
If you jia liao bee, everywhere you go also the same. Unless for some luck from your ancestors, you manage to join this company and thought you be in heaven forever. Now kanna banish to h––l, cow peh....
Don't paint a picture outside better lah.... you know.... if you don't have the skillsets that are future proof, you cannot get far.
Employees are like condoms. Once you are done with them, you discard them. I don’t know what’s the fuss...
@3Pryx+16zEvLP3, if managers are not emotionally affected or concerned about the situation, why come here tell people your top quantile is not affected? Mgmt meeting regularly to discuss HR matters, and now panically showing concerns ONLY for top quartile? Is our top quantile mentally so weak? Mgmt must be more inclusive, not just for top quatile but care for everyone. Please..
@3Pryx+16zEvLP3
If you are really a manager, you are delusional.
Attrition numbers are sky high now, it is all the younger employees who are leaving or looking to leave.
It is fast becoming an old folks home!
Wonder if we should slowdown training KL engineers as eventually they will take over us in Singapore. Slowdown this to preserve your position till you find a place. If all KL become expert then SG opportunities will be even less 5 to 10yrs time ??
@3Pdoh+16zEvLP3 Don’t start on your fear mongering please. If there’s still a country study on support functions, attrition numbers are still low.
Last I checked, no one who’s in the top quintile (oh, now it’s outstanding + outstanding with distinction) has left the company. And even those who left, I haven’t heard anyone whose job/pay will make you go wahhh. So what does it show- there’s no better alternative than EM. Stop coming to the sites to complain and do something useful - like send WIN emails or join WIN talks?
Of course got time to go to 7F. Finished my work and check out where the business link profits are going to. Other than the jiak liao bee management, a large part of it is going to the support functions who head home ahead of time. Tsk tsk tsk.
There is a wave of young engineers, fellow workers leave the company, not all of them find a super shining job or higher pay, they chose to leave as they have lost faith to the MANAGEMENT. The management FAILED to build trust, FAILED to motivate, FAILED to assure the future of this company, FAILED to manage crisis like this. BIG NLI/LI. Leadership is never SIMPLE, yet here people talk about leadership very LOOSELY, there is whole lot of traits GOOD Leaders need to have, name a few, the honesty, the integrity, the unbiasedness, the drive, the empathy, the serving spirit, the emotional intelligence, highly self-disciplined ... look around how many leaders behave these GOOD qualities, sad to say, some look like gangster, on the surface, seems these traits are there so to climb corp ladder. Compete to win very much internally not so much with external. Young fellow workers, leave while you can. Never debate with your boss or anyone higher than you, else you down to drain, wrong never mind. It takes 10-15yrs to turn big ship from north to south, it can take 10-15yrs again to turn, with external factors, environmental challenges, industry downtrend, oil/gas asset selling around globe to pay huge debt, it may never turn around.
Today I witnessed a horrible act that my colleague (A) backstabbing another colleague (B). Basically (A) do not have any technical quality but survived purely by leeching other people and networking with people such as (B). But after leeching, just turn around and said bad things about (B) in order to good look for (A) itself… I pray (A) get PIP/L soon. Honestly, everyone should not just judge people on the surface (the hidden motive is scary).
The weakest link are honest people (B), (C), (D)…, strongest link are hidden killers (A).