Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Bloomberg: Wells Fargo Readying Thousands of Job Cuts to Start in 2020

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-09/wells-fargo-is-readying-thousands-of-job-cuts-to-start-this-year

By Hannah Levitt July 9, 2020, 9:39 AM EDT Updated on July 9, 2020, 9:56 AM EDT

Wells Fargo & Co., the largest employer among U.S. banks, is preparing to cut thousands of jobs starting later this year, potentially setting a bleak precedent for an industry that’s been resisting mass layoffs as the coronavirus pandemic worsens.

Pressure to dramatically reduce costs is coming to a head inside the bank, prompting executives to draft plans that may ultimately eliminate tens of thousands of positions, people with knowledge of the confidential talks said, asking not to be named. Some analysts predict the lender may post its first quarterly loss in more than a decade next week, when the firm is set to reveal how much it’s lowering its dividend following Federal Reserve stress tests.

Though the strains at Wells Fargo are more acute than at rivals, any cuts would reverberate across an industry facing mounting loan losses. Reductions by such a prominent firm could test the resolve of competitors that pledged to provide job security for their massive workforces, and in turn, a bulwark for the nation’s economy.

A spokesperson for the San Francisco-based bank declined to comment. Shares of the lender fell 1.7% to $24.14 at 9:55 a.m. in New York. The stock is down 55% this year.

Executives haven’t yet adopted a specific target for shrinking the bank’s workforce of about 263,000, and they aren’t likely to detail a plan when posting quarterly results, one of the people said. Yet among analysts and investors, Chief Executive Officer Charlie Scharf already has made little secret of his concern about costs, calling them “way too high” during a presentation in May.

The firm is significantly less efficient than its largest competitors, a situation that’s been exacerbated by years of regulatory probes and sanctions, and now the pandemic.

Wells Fargo's compensation cost relative to revenue is higher than peers
Citi: 29%
JP Morgan: 30%
BOA: 35%
WF: 41%

Last month, Scharf acknowledged the company would lower its dividend in response to stress tests and its own dimming assumptions about the economic outlook, which he noted had “changed significantly” in recent months.

Lenders including JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America Corp. and Citigroup Inc. plan to maintain their payouts this quarter. But as the Fed keeps an eye on mounting U.S. infections, it has said it could eventually restrict how much banks pay out using a formula based on earnings. If Wells Fargo offsets the pain for its shareholders by cutting compensation expenses, that could set a precedent for others in the industry.

“Not every financial institution came into this tumultuous time period on really sound footing, and those problems haven’t gone away because of the pandemic,” said Andy Challenger, senior vice president at staffing adviser Challenger, Gray & Christmas. “We very well may see a resumption of normal cutting as the pressure builds up within these organizations.”

Since taking over in October, Scharf has been reviewing Wells Fargo’s businesses and developing strategy changes that were widely expected to include some reductions. Still, the firm joined big banks on both sides of the Atlantic in pledging to suspend new job cuts when the pandemic began upending commerce and markets this year.

European banks including HSBC Holdings Plc and Deutsche Bank AG have since said they would resume reductions, but U.S. banks have held firm.

Some firms, including Goldman Sachs Group Inc., have indicated they’ll maintain their pledge through the end of the 2020. Wells Fargo has been more conservative, implementing a shorter moratorium and then adjusting it, people with knowledge of the planning said. Its current freeze expires this month, though it could be extended.

The firm’s expenses have surged in recent years on legal costs, remediation and fines related to a series of scandals that began with the 2016 revelation that employees opened unauthorized customer accounts to meet sales goals. Yet its job cuts have been relatively modest over the past decade, a period in which Bank of America shrank its workforce by about 80,000 people. Wells Fargo has more people than its top competitor, JPMorgan, despite pulling in about $30 billion less revenue last year.

Scharf was known as a cost-cutter when the board enlisted him, and he’s warned there will be much work to be done once he finishes a review aimed at reviving profitability. The CEO said in May that he hopes to create a road map for the company by the end of the year.

Chief Financial Officer John Shrewsberry gave a glimpse of what’s ahead at a conference last month: “There will come a time, and I assume at some point this year, when we get back to executing on programs that are in place, and some that are still under development, that are designed to get our total expense base, which for us means our total headcount, to as lean a state as we can responsibly operate.”

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Post ID: @OP+15Rwgteh

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There's a LOT of managers that all they do is attend meetings all day. Talk about things others are doing and promise more than what's realistic.

Charlie is bringing his team over and he wants that stock compensation. He seems to be a sort of "job jumper" so cost cutting is the quicker route and then he's off to fleece another institution as an overpaid exec.

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Post ID: @1suw+15Rwgteh

@1sjm: that’s fantastic 😂👍!

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Post ID: @1kkm+15Rwgteh

Well hey. In the meantime everyone make sure you get all of those courses completed by August 21 before you get your pink slip.

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Post ID: @1sjm+15Rwgteh

Charlie is bringing in PEOPLE HE CAN TRUST AND WHO HE HAS WORKED WITH... This is the only way he can get things done.

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Post ID: @1pmf+15Rwgteh

To “Wow you guys really trust your management.”

I don’t think anyone who has been around for 5 years or more trusts management. There might be some newbies who are buying the company-line, or some employees who are blindly optimistic despite the facts before them, and sadly some who don’t watch/read the news. Mostly, I think people are just trying to survive the best they know how. But if you spend enough time here, and you get burned enough times, you’ll put 2 and 2 together.

Most of us who have been around for a while have witnessed the self-serving actions of our c-suite, the unscrupulous business practices, the systemic culture issues, the arrogant ignorance, the coverups, the inability to admit fault, the lack of transparency, the retaliation against whistle blowers, the 2% increases during record profits, the ban on any input that isn’t positive, the hogwash PR campaigns, the misleading of investors and regulators, the significantly poor decision-making, the lack of ethics and integrity, the promotion of managers who figure out new ways for the company to make money by sticking it to our customers, the refusal to address the root cause of problems, our betraying HR department who supports the company not the employees, our new CEO who shamelessly makes 500 times his average employee... how much time do we have?

So in answer to your statement: there aren’t very many of us who trust our management. And for those who do right now: talk to me in a couple years.

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Post ID: @1uif+15Rwgteh

@yyf -spot on. How he sleeps at night is beyond me. I get cutting jobs and expenses. But how many buddies does he need to do this???

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Post ID: @1ebp+15Rwgteh

Wow, you guys really trust your mgmt. just like the 8 is great mentality from Stumph... Wake up! I remember internal emails in 2013-2015 about “ sticky banking”. The reckoning in here. I used to go into Charlotte main branch and felt like Rex Cramer jumping over salespeople just to make it to teller line. For those of you in your 20’s and 30’s, welcome to the real world for you are just an A# on the banks/ WFA’s payroll. Go and look at Wells postings in India as they mention “ tens of thousands in headcount cuts”. Cancel culture cancelling your careers.

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Post ID: @1zrq+15Rwgteh

With the amount of leaks to the media, does anyone else think management is trying to get people to voluntarily leave so they don’t have to pay severance? Normally banks are really quiet on this type stuff and then boom, pink slips go out in one or two days. But this continual mention in the news makes me wonder if mgt is trying to get out of paying severance.

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Post ID: @ari+15Rwgteh

Talks the talk when talking about diversity and expenses too high and hires all former buddies to in the same ethnicity, race, gender etc. To downsize. But this guy will walk the walk when they make layoff announcements next Tuesday. Trust me

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Post ID: @vfe+15Rwgteh

DMI is the epitome of lots of talk and virtually no action. There are too many risk people too, Corporate Risk, Control, Financial Crimes. Legacy Wholesale had about 1 Financial Crimes person for every 10 employees! I mean you wonder why costs are horrible - I bet if you took the bank as a whole 50% + are in jobs to oversee people working. Too many managers with 20 people in their direct chain with 5 levels of managers above and below. Sadly all Charlie likes to do is hire all his old buddies. All I can hope is maybe there will be some openings at JPM soon since it seems he has hired so many. Guess hiring a ton of executives at high pay is cost cutting. Seems he saved on HR costs since no one else got to apply.

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Post ID: @yyf+15Rwgteh

Even for those who survive the layoff, it’s probably only a matter of time before there’s another. The working environment will continue to be stressful because everyone will worry about the next layoff, etc.

Not to mention the managers (there are way too many) who will fight tooth and nail, do anything to save their jobs and salaries...because what is the alternative? Being thrown into a downturn and a pandemic with no health insurance...

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Post ID: @yna+15Rwgteh

If you work in risk in any way and get laid off, you can always file a concern with OCC.

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Post ID: @wnm+15Rwgteh

This news makes me so happy. I know I’m an a$$hole for it but I live for this. It’s been one amazing sh–show after another since October 2016. Just know it’s going to get so much worse once you’re RIF’d. Having WF experience is an spectacular stain on your resume. You’ll deny it now but you’ll soon know. Good luck losers.

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Post ID: @iiy+15Rwgteh

Good luck with Charlie. He s—ed the life out of BNYMellom 😢

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Post ID: @qgo+15Rwgteh

Ditto on the below, and yep it’s all over the bank.

Multiple minions assigned to projects who have no authority, little knowledge, and don’t even accurately represent their minion commander. Loads of rework and time wasted while these folks play a game of telephone.

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Post ID: @cyf+15Rwgteh

"So what positions can they afford to cut?"

Really? Try interacting with anyone in DMI. You've got a DMI project "owner" and a project manager from EPMO. The DMI project "owner" then assigns one or two minions to further "manage" the project even though the minions have no decision making or other authority over the project. completely useless and duplicative.

this is going on all over the bank

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Post ID: @ruy+15Rwgteh

@idd

This article was written on 7/9/2020. That’s today not a month ago.

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Post ID: @zsx+15Rwgteh

come on, this is over a month old!

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Post ID: @idd+15Rwgteh

So what positions can they afford to cut?

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Post ID: @cfa+15Rwgteh

Us:
https://csimarket.com/stocks/WFC-Revenue-per-Employee.html

JPMChase
https://csimarket.com/stocks/JPM-Revenue-per-Employee.html

Citi (rumors floating around that Citi is also getting ready for cuts)
https://csimarket.com/stocks/C-Revenue-per-Employee.html

Bank of America
https://csimarket.com/stocks/BAC-Revenue-per-Employee.html

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Post ID: @pyr+15Rwgteh

Yes, it's coming... and it won't be pretty.

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Post ID: @psx+15Rwgteh

“People with knowledge of the talks”

Intentional leak to Bloomberg = warning shot fired

There is a formal program on this under the COO, take it seriously.

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Post ID: @dhm+15Rwgteh

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