Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

They’re also installing 120 desks in a lot of the new build outs. It’s awesome, everyone can now cough and sneeze directly in each other’s face!

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Saul has a policy that he and his 2 level direct managers would have dedicated offices, and others would not have a dedicated office. Why is he and his 2 level managers so special that they need dedicated spaces while others don’t? Other managers even if they had been going to office every day, they will have to “reserve” an office in advance assuming there will be one available for them. This is same for employees and contractors which contradicts with Saul’s working in the office everyday, because it is making people’s life a b–challenging.
With flu season, and with Coronavirus, this policy hasn’t softened up. WF is putting their employees at risk, and definitely is not thinking of their team members well being nor their team members family.

Saul, and the other executives should NOT have dedicated offices and should experience what the rest of the others are going through. This will hopefully change the policy once he and the other executives are exposed to these potential risks and diseases.

Just look at Diamond Princess Cruise Ship - you have a few sick people that are "forced" into the office because of this "butts in seats" policy and next thing you know - more people gets sick.

And if happens to be something like the Coronavirus - oh man, it would be unthinkable.

On the other hand, if a telecommuter gets sick - no one else will be affected - it is not spread to anyone. The "sick" telecommuter will still be productive as much a–/he can.

Leadership thinks they are right because of Agile. I doubt it. It will be too late when they find out their vision is wrong and we are behind our rivals like JPM or BOA.

@1bmk+13sti8I6 In my exit survey, I commented that the "butts in seats" policy was causing illness in the office. I risked my seat when I stayed home with the flu a couple years ago (not wanting to spread it around). As someone with a chronic respiratory condition, I was never happy when the "flex" cube next to me was occupied by someone who was clearly sick.

By the way, I did have to come into the office, sick with the respiratory infection. However my symptoms did NOT include any coughing, sneezing, etc. I washed my hands a lot. Otherwise I would have requested to not come into the office sick so as to not infect other team members.

Also there was someone else who came in sick at that city office and their Manager told them to go home to work in order to not infect him and the other team members.

Just for example, a number of years ago there was a man sitting in the next cube over from me (close range) who stated that he had a case of Bronchitis. He sat next to me in the city office, closely located, cube setup to make the point. He was just coughing and hacking all day long, not trying to cover his mouth at all while coughing. I tried to turn my fan on to push his "germs in the air" away. After day 1 of sitting next to the still very "Ill" man I told my Manager that I needed to telecommute in order to try and not get sick from him. This did not go over "well" with my Manager, but I did so anyway. Well turned out that was too late. Due to just that 1 day of close contact with the Bronchitis man I came down with a really bad respiratory infection (must have been Bronchitis) that took around a month to recover from. Having to drag myself into the city office sick everyday, thanks to that 1 infectious person in the close cube environment. Ended up going to Urgent Care and getting medicine that made it go away, cost me lot's of money too.

Check this out as well! https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-truth-about-open-offices

Oh how I would love to send this to Saul

This was my first thought as well.

I hope Saul is paying attention.

Even better, our new workplace strategy is to pack team members into smaller areas, with “neighborhood” seating - a different desk every day. Perfect setup for infecting entire departments quickly. I wonder if Saul is considering this in disaster planning? Agile demands all in the office, packed elbow to elbow. One cough or sneeze will infect entire team!