Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

They mention 10 products in every sentence but have no depth.

These are the BS'ers. Watch out for them, both inside and outside the company. They talk in circles and say nothing. They'll be oh so nice when they need you to do their work for them, then stab you in the back when they get the chance.

My skills were growing stale at ORCL, and that is a fatal problem, especially for someone like me in my late 50's. Oracle Cloud is not cloud at all. Like IBM, Oracle puts expensive hardware appliances into co-location data centers - that is not real cloud. I do a lot of interviewing at my new company, and most (but not all) Oracle candidates score low on technical knowledge. They mention 10 products in every sentence but have no depth. They use old terminology. If you work at Oracle, learn a real cloud, and get a certification on AWS, Google, or Azure.

Honestly, startups are a very good idea. Great way to update your skills. If the company goes under, you still have the experience to find the next job. Much better than hanging out at Oracle.

O is a software company.

No it's not. Last time I saw the propaganda bs on the walls, it was software, hardware, complete...

”It’s not easy to stay up-to date unless you are working for a startup.”

What is this obsession with startups? Don’t get caught up in that. There are other options. It’s hard when you’ve been at a stagnant fading star like O to grok that there are companies, governments, edu, retail, HCM orgs that investin their tech and their people. Do the research. Find those places, find out what they do and where they are headed. Target them in your efforts. Fill in knowledge as needed. For me that meant SQL Server and web technologies. Some cloud basics.

Just f——— do it.

It’s not easy to stay up-to date unless you are working for a startup. Most established companies including oracle has proprietary technologies and those skills can easily adapted for your next job if you choose to move. Don’t worry about being stagnant unless you do nothing (other than collecting paycheck) in your current job.
I am one of those who those I was non-marketable until I switched to another job with a decent raise over an year ago.

Not all companies are start ups.

No one said that.

Not all code is old

No one said that

and not all jobs in tech are software engineering or coding.

O is a software company. No point in comparing it to Intel or Tesla. If you work at O and aren't in sales, marketing, accounting or finance then you're probably a code monkey.

So there you go, being negative. Not all companies are start ups. Not all code is old, and not all jobs in tech are software engineering or coding.

You losers are utter and incomplete FAILURES who couldn’t handle working at Oracle. None of you deserve to work for as great of a company like Oracle, or Google foe that matter.

LOSERS.

You spend 40hrs a week at work. Why not enjoy it?

In my experience, once the honeymoon period is over, a new job isn't all that different from the old job. All too often you will be dealing with technical debt as you try to keep some legacy code working, and it's not just at O. Sure, at a start up you'll be writing new code, but my experience with those places is that layoffs are sudden and swift. I've been fortunate enough to have worked at places where I could write new code, but every single one of them is gone or is dying.

Oh, and 40 hours a week? Not at one of those fun start ups. At most places I have worked over the years there was pressure to work more that 40 hours. At one place we had a manager who told us that working just 40 was slacking and would get you fired. One of the few positive things Glassdoor reviewers say about O is work/life balance.

Did anyone watch CNBC this morning? When asked about most hyped stocks and prediction for one stock to not bet on in 2020, the analyst picked Oracle. He said it is one of the worst (I'm paraphrasing of course), and unless it splits, there's no hope (though Larry will not do that).

Good post. This mirrors my experience except on the East Coast. My former colleagues are soooo in the bubble. They hate their jobs, they hate the managers, they hate dealing with India. They find no joy in their day to day work. It’s a shame, but it’s their life.

You spend 40hrs a week at work. Why not enjoy it? Make 2020 your year.

Well said. I left Oracle in early 2019, after almost 15+ years, and I now work at a small company in the bay area. The amount of learning has been phenomenal, and the relevance to latest technologies has been eye opening. It feels like I was stuck in an archaic world at Oracle and didn't even realize it until after I left. Oh and the money is 40% more and coming. Why the hell did I not leave earlier? I think I was too lazy, but kept justifying that we all work for a paycheck, and no company is ideal etc. etc.

GET OUT NOW!!!

I wasn't replaced by a work visa employee but rather by an Indian national in India.

There are worst companies out there. We all work for a paycheck.