This is a dangerous game you would think big companies wouldn't want to play, however the bean counter is truly the winner and inocent lives clearly don't matter, case in point GM's ignition issues and boieng, some how some way this has gotta stop, yet at the same time let's put people in cars with no steering wheel and go autonomous! Where will all of this 9 dollar an hour engineering work be done? No thank you. Something needs to change and soon with these companies.
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The industry has always had an infatuation with outsourcing projects from the 90's, from my early time entering the market. The resulting failure has always been the same decade to decade, and I've worked at many companies. You can't expect the same level of competancy from countries lacking depth, as other countries who have done it properly for many decades.
In the push for outsourcing around the time of recession, I had a recruiter call me up asking if I wanted a job. He was looking for a candidate with two bachelor degrees, and two specialized system skills that take about a decade or longer to truely master. I said ok, what the pay rate for these incrediable talents? He said $11/hr, I have to compete with our overseas counterparts. I said "good luck", click.
To the bean counters at the top, safety will always sit second only to profit. You will only attract quality, if the pay matches quality skillsets. Bring in subpar experience, and you get subpar results. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. In Boeings case, a heaping pile of sc-ap. Well done.
Well, two 737 MAX planes have crashed, so Boeing's cunning plan didn't turn out too well.
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I read the article,
Basically paying minimum wage to outsourced folks, and where ?
This is appalling, bean counters and evil deeds cost the lives of travelers all for the mighty dollar. And they thought this practice would be good for boieng and wouldn't go unnoticed by the public?
Sickening is an absolute understatement.
When you pay $9, you know quality is your top priority.
Let me google that for you.
Turns out it was $9.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers
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Link for article?
$12 an hour?
Boeing's engineers are unionized.
But management ignores them and overrules them, which is how you get the 737 MAX debacle.
That, and Boeing hires $12/hour engineers, as shown in an article someone posted a week or two ago.
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Let's stop talking and make it happen. Now is the time.
All it takes to get the ball rolling is phone calls and getting people on board department by department.
Make the call now while contract talks are in progress.
Why hasn’t the UAW ever tried to organize the salaried work force. They were ripe ten years ago when GM started walking salaried employees out the door. Could it that GM made promises to the UAW during negotiations if they stayed away from salaried employees. What ever the reason the salaried work force is ready. Hurry up before GM fills the rolls with millennials and gets rid of all its tenured salaried work force.
Of the companies named, Costco actually treats their employees and customers very well.
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Don't support Costco, Walmart or GM,
Folks buy locally at mom and pops if possible, don't give these greedy companies any more of your hard earned cash.
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Woulda ,coulda, shoulda but choose not too.
Now many people suffer.
Lively hoods ended at the snap of a finger is payment in full to Americans, white,black, Chinese,indians martians, dosent matter because American workers loose at the almighty $$$ Barra her CFO and Ruess come out on top and sleep fantastic at night. There will never be a professional union, and if you all really wanted one now is the time to reach out to the UAWs leadership and join their contract talks, if you have the courage to do this now, it will force a shutdown so fierce that they will buckle under, GM will have zero way to move forward with anything. Will you do what must be done? No because fear rules your minds. Either sh– or get of the pot.
Engineers, 7th level and below should have formed a union like UAW. This should happen in every industry. Then those unions and UAW can tackle the corporate greed. It will be good for the people and this country.
Gary Jones, it's the race to the bottom, mean while many have lost good jobs in the United States.
Gary have the courage in the public spot light to put little Mrs Mary in question of her gigantic salary and ask her to take a large pay cut.
How many thousands more of people will be affected in strong profitable times all while she and her crew get more pay than anyone in the industry? Her healthcare is covered along with her family's isn't it? Massive job loss in the very country that put the world on wheels! The irony.
Everyone that I worked with questions the leadership and the direction of GM.
The midwest in general rellies a lot on manufacturing. Nothing here? Try moving to Ohio or Illinois. If nothing there try the east or west coast. These people can lay you off but they cannot define your lives and how you get back up after falling.
Want to also point out another example of greed, comparing apples to apples.
Walmart vs Costco. One pays peanuts, the other caps out at about $25-$26 per hour, yet both are powerhouses in earnings.
Wages do NOT impact the bottom line as much as you might think, when comparing behemoths such as these. It's the level of greed that becomes the sole deciding factor.
@1063cTMV- are you serious? You mean to tell me the UAW is responsible for the mismanagment of the design centers. No, you have to be honest and put the blame where it belongs -Mary Barra.
The average wage of any type of employee accounts for less than 3% of a vehicles sales price, yet the divide and conquer strategy set in place is working well. Keep blaming "X" group, either salary, contract, or UAW, as the reason for layoffs, and why whatever they do isn't good enough.
Instead, focus on the real villain, those in the ivory tower, sitting at top of these companies.
The divide and conquer strategy had been in use for ages, and can be applied to nearly all situations. It is the reason that people are kept down, because the other half always keeps holding the opposite back. Put two crabs in a low walled box, and neither of them will ever escape as they cintinually pull each other backwards.
For example: One half says this company is an evil greedy company. Look what happened to Warren, Pontiac, Flint, Poletown, etc. The other half says, but they kept me working for half of my career, I will always support their products. Because both sides are equally divided, the company benefits from the ignorance and chaos. The next boogeyman they will claim, will be the UAW and their negotiations, how it will be difficult to compete. It won't be their fault, anymore than it's anyone else's fault, with exception to leadership and investor greed.
Easy to see who's the ringleader within the circus.
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Along with 1500 contract employees, some of us planned to be hired last summer, me being one of them.
Then fired.
Blame the Indian CFO Dishwasher va! Or whatever her f..in name is. Barra and her greed machine.
It's the greedy CEO, CFO and bag man Ruess.
Don't buy GM products...
for what it's worth, the 4000 IT jobs that were cut back in February were not UAW
The customer wants reliable transportation and convenience along with a good looking vehicle inside and out.
Leadership finger points and can't keep focus on current product, instead of making them better they stop development and refinement, Ask Mary, it's all the UAWs fault. EVs well super! Offer a little bit if everything for everyone and make it better. How is GM changing for the positive and how is the company positioning itself to complete, Tech companies care a threat to take away business according to Ford, GM and FCA. That was yesterday's news during " UAW" contract discussions. The three are battling to compete !?!? Is that something new or something? No it's an accuse for mis management and continues over sight on not how to make better products. The competition had always been there, this is a new concept to GM? Really?
We are changing, the customer is changing, it is not UAW