Thread regarding Bridgepoint Education Inc. layoffs

This is the day in the life of a sales rep at Ashford.

First, your day starts off by laying in bed and contemplating if you should call out sick and re-evaluating your life decisions that led to your employment at Ashford. After fighting traffic and arriving to the parking structure, you realize the cars aren't moving; someone forgot their badge again and is holding up traffic into the structure. After finally getting in the parking structure, you walk into the building where you wait in line to board an elevator to your floor.

You get off on the 7th floor, but forget you moved to the 5th floor last week (constant change!). As you mosey on over to your cubicle, your manager starts to get everyone ready for the morning stand up. You quickly clock in and head over to the circle. In this meeting you talk about your "student success stories" aka s---ers you enrolled and what you have going on in the pipeline.

After a possible chant or clapping, you head to your cube where you login to your computer and begin dialing prospects or sit there on your "floor" shift. If dialing out to prospects, make sure you're in outbound in your aux code. There are several aux settings you can be in. Outbound lets the manager know you are making calls to prospects, they can see how long it has been since your last dial, so don't let too much time pass between dials or you'll hear about it! If you need to go to the bathroom, you put your aux code in personal. But don't be in personal too long or forget to change it back to outbound when you get back, or you'll get a stern talking to about being paid to do your job while you're on the clock. Back to a floor shift, this is when you are sitting on an open line to take incoming transfers from the student inquiry department.

These are employees sitting on an auto-dialer or taking incoming calls from prospective students. Their job is to get someone on the phone and transfer to a sales rep, I mean enrollment adviser. They usually ask basic questions about why they submitted an inquiry online and what they're looking to study. 30% of the time the transfer to the rep is not so smooth and they end up hanging up. You continue to make outbound dials until lunch time where you can escape for an hour (make sure you don't go over an hour!!). Make sure you change your aux code when you get back! Depending on the day, you may have a beginning of week meeting with your manager or director. There you'll talk about students you enrolled in the previous month and if they'll become a "start".

A start is a student who completes their first class. As a sales rep, your goal is to get starts and that's it. You give zero effs what happens after that first class. You talk strategy about how to follow up with problem students. I had a few myself where I had to call them twice a day, every day to hand hold them through their first class. STARTS STARTS STARTS!!!

After a long day of BS you head down to parking structure to get in your car and fight the traffic heading out. You get home and crack open a cold one. You contemplate not showing up tomorrow, but you're broke.

This is the day in the life of a sales rep at Ashford.

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The first problem is Ashford doesn’t fully explain the Admission Counselor, formerly called Enrollment Advisor, position. They haven’t used the title Enrollment Advisor in well over 6-7 years. They make it seem as if the leads are not random and are individuals who wanted information about Ashford. In actuality its people who’ve input their information into a raffle for a fee I-pad or something similar. Look at the complaints about Ashford University calling people borderline harassing them to start school. They almost all say they’ve never heard of the school or requested an information. These are cold calls.

This misinformation causes several people to quit on their first day. It was not uncommon to have an Admission Counselor start in the morning, go to lunch, and never come back. Had they known it was a high pressure, sales job they probably would’ve declined the interview and/or the position.

As far as “rationalizing” their job, you make it sound like students don’t have free will and they are being tricked into something. Ashford University is an accredited organization and provides an education similar to programs found at UoP, Walden (I have attended there), and Capella. Of course, the Admission Counselor is going to highlight the positive aspects and ignore the negative. Students who attend brick and motor schools also have a hard time finding a job after graduation. Yes, student loans are an investment in your future. However, paying them back will be a burden to most people. Just because the Admissions Counselor didn’t give the cold, honest truth doesn’t mean they deceived the student. Have there been instances when counselors flat-out lied? ABSOLUTELY. But how is that different than a waiter telling you the food is good when they know it tastes terrible.

My issue with Ashford is when a student tells you “I have no computer, no place to live …” and the Admission Counselor provides false hope that they can complete their degree. Is it possible? YES! But it is unlikely. Have counselors preyed on the young, old, and injured military personnel? Unfortunately, the answer is yes. If the potential student can’t figure out how to send an email, online courses are not going to work. However, as the review states, counselors are only concerned with the student completing the first course.

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@WkxtTRw, we saw this story twice already. Does anyone have any other stories? Does anyone have any guilt about doing this work? Was the poster in this story drinking to forget what he had done during the day?

How do sales reps rationalize their job? Do they use any techniques of neutralization, such as blaming the victim, minimizing the extent of the harm, saying they have other loyalties (such as children and family they have to feed)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization

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