Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Crossovers killed GM’s production

I know, this title sounds stupid, as this article sounded stupid when I read it at first. The sad thing is that this is all true. The enormous growth of the crossover market did, in fact, kill the compact sedan and hatchback production, therefore forcing GM to cut production in order to save money. But a simple question remains: Why didn't they decide to make crossovers then? When you go out on the street it’s hard not to notice the rapid increase of people driving crossovers. How the hell did the market trend experts at GM miss out on such a big and obvious market trend? Just look at other car companies. They all increased the offerings of crossover models. But again, these are serious companies, GM every day looks less and less like one.

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/the-truth-behind-general-motors-shrinking-product-line

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Its not just labor costs that are higher at GM compared to toyota. Salary pay is way higher at gm. Barra makes almost 3x than toyota ceo and top management is the same. All that money and they can't come close to toyota results.

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Well done. That about sums up GM. When MB fails, and she will, they'll bring in the next bright light of hope.

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Post ID: @8tla+WZRTDN6

@WZRTDN6-1vyd this is brilliant

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Post ID: @4ops+WZRTDN6

A Japanese company and a North American company decided to have a canoe race on the St. Lawrence River. Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile. The North Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat.

A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the North American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing. So, North American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

To prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team’s management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder.

It was called the ”Rowing Team Quality First Program“, with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices, and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the North American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments in new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year’s racing team was outsourced to India.

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Post ID: @1vyd+WZRTDN6

Pretty sure American sedans can't compete because they have overpriced vehicles that cut too many corners because of labor overhead. Look at GM vs Toyota. Even though Toyota uses more US sourced parts per vehicle, their labor costs per hour is $48 vs. $74 for GM for cars sold in the US. And that's why GM needs massive layoffs and to get rid of unions to even begin to compete with foreign nameplates.

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Post ID: @1fmd+WZRTDN6

Sedans are not dead, AMERICAN sedans are dead because they're not selling compare to Japanese sedans. Both toyota and honda are selling 300k each of their sedans, civic corrolla, accord camry. Americans like SUV and crossover because oil is cheap now, wait till oil is high and the US big three got no sedans.

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Post ID: @1see+WZRTDN6

Ummm, no. The cannibalism of GM's core is about to kill GM.

GM is betting on a pie in the sky scheme. I've stated this many times before. Sedans, no one wants, and they are unprofitable. GM is cannibalizing propulsion for EV, on the bet that their 20+ EV's in the coming years will be successful.

In a time that no one wants sedans, they're betting the farm on EV sedans in the coming year. Either they know that gas prices are going to skyrocket in the coming years, or they're absolutely insane making this kind of bet.

Today, everyone wants trucks and SUV's. Tell me what will change that in the few years to come - shy of gas prices going to $5-$10 per gallon?

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Post ID: @1pla+WZRTDN6

Is there actually a car manufacturer that produces as many crossover models as GM?

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