Can't wrap my head around as to why people want to see others lose their job. Yeah Intel has manufacturing issues but it's doing just fine with 14nm. Really high revenue and for all those doomsday folks, it won't go down to half of its revenue in 2 years. As long as x86 rules the software industry, Intel will be safe and that is not gonna be replaced by anything else anytime soon.
All companies falter now and then. Intel will be back on track.
Yeah, right. #GOLD post. Thanks, OP
Can't wrap my head around as to why people want to see others lose their job. Yeah Intel has manufacturing issues but it's doing just fine with 14nm. Really high revenue and for all those doomsday folks, it won't go down to half of its revenue in 2 years. As long as x86 rules the software industry, Intel will be safe and that is not gonna be replaced by anything else anytime soon.
All companies falter now and then. Intel will be back on track.
New CEO needs to fire TMG and take the product to TSMC, the. They won’t have to lie about benchmarks and produce real products on schedules like Apple
@2rjw - OP here. you're clutching at straws if you're defending using mainframes, x86 server is a bigger market than that.
There is network, comms, software and obviously PC too.
5 years into the future I don't know how well these will serve Intel but if mainframes is the bar, then that's something Intel should be able to meet.
The only original founder of Intel alive is Gordon. IBM has their mainframe business that makes money. GE is diversified into significant number of businesses for over 100 years. HP's BOD made the bad decisions to get rid of there core businesses (Testing and Instruments, Medical Imaging,Semiconductors services and processes, Mid-range computing... was a cash cow). These core businesses contributed to the balance sheets regardless of the business cycle. Intel has none of this..
Wow , just wow. We are a long way from "Only the Paranoid Survive"!
@1woz - so the solution is to fire 10K ppl? I always believed the management needs a major overhaul. But hey, it doesn't matter what an engineer believes in.
If they won't learn and fix after years of delay they'll eventually have the actual music and my only gripe will be it'll always be the engineers who will be targeted.
OP keep believing it, no CEO and headless, manufacturing technology and scale gone, all they got is x86 server to milk.
Like IBM, GE, or HP might survive bit gone are the days of leadership of anykind, but be careful if they don’t fix silicon TMG is history and that is 50k people gone
OP here - fair points all, but as long as Intel's 14nm is competitive enough, it'll do just fine. It does matter on the server side but unlike enthusiasts, other client side consumers don't understand anything about 8th gen products or 14nm.
@jxu - Unfortunately, if Intel does go to hell, employees who get affected first and I doubt if they have millions worth shares like top execs.
I don't want Intel to fail but yeah they should come clean about manufacturing issues.
Nvidia and TSMC definitely are looking very good though.
LTD has been working on 10nm for more than 7 years. Initial product Canonlake was suppose do launch 3 years ago and Iceland more than two years. Billions was spent on the design of those to products not to mention how many steppings and OPC reticles and still NOTHING from the genius in Hillsoboro.
Now Apple will likely sell more than a quarter BILLION 7nm manufactured by TSMC before anything real comes out of an intel fab. Now that is truly an epic FUBAR
FACT: Intel's competitors are building 7nm devices in high volume.. Intel will not get on track as result of bad business decisions, scans,frauds and corrupt East Indian nepotists.
I just can't wait to see Intel go to hell for the way it treated its long time dedicated employees. I hope AMD, Nvidia, Q and TSMC kick their butt in spectacular fashion.
Like GE buddy, not at all clear they can recover.
Silicon manufacturing requires scale and they don’t have it.
Leadership is critical and they don’t have it in manufacturing and AMD if they execute with TSMC technology you are in big trouble.
Let’s not forget Xlinx or NVidia as well.
TMG was a crown jewel and competitive advantage but is now a FUBAR boat anchor.
Whole x86 roadmap was screwed by SA lying and failure.
Recovery possibly but not likely
FUBAR like GE and layoffs all but certain as part of recovery plan