Are folks being suspended and fired for violating security policy? What gives?
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The constitution does not protect anyone’s right to commit crime. It does protect their right to opine about whether crime is good or bad. If you try to quote the Bible and the constitution to justify committing crime, you are missing the point. I lived in Saudi for a few years and it is equally as corrupt. There is less physical crime in Saudi - murder, theft, etc. but there is plenty of crime there. Not the place to retire to.
Epic Chevron thread and spiral out to total degenerates. Epic.
Funny thing about the Constitution (as written) it protects the rights of everyone, not just those you agree with. I happen to think American is greater than it ever has been before, and continues to improve. Rock on.
You call yourselves true Americans or sell-out Socialists? This country was founded on morals and values. Depart from that compass and America will be no better than any Eastern European hellhole. Conservatism means adherence to the US Constitution, as written. There’s nothing wrong with that. It makes this country the best in the world for protecting individual freedoms and rights. Stop selling out your intelligence to the enemies of the left.
I hear ISIS is still recruiting... a group that agrees with your ideal of real men and subservient women.
If you seek stronger morals and values to better reflect your right wing mentality, I suggest Saudi Arabia. Weather is not ideal, but people lie, cheat and steal less than in Texas.
Right you are, gmrm. I always lived in the US, but have keen memories of life growing up as a kid in the 1960’s, high school in the mid 70’s, college days, early career years and now. I didn’t have to be out of the country to recognize big changes in life and politics. This country is on a downward curve in all ways that really are worthy of living well. Now that I’m retired, I’m seriously considering moving to another country where the cost of living is lower and the people still have values and morals.
I am faaf just so you can easily ridicule me. I just repatriated after 28 years and I don’t recognize this place. When I left, government fought but they got things done. Now they just fight and refuse to get anything done. People used to interact. Now they text. People used to take responsibility for their actions. Now they sue. I am the frog thrown in the pot of boiling water. I will still stand for the National anthem.
My grandma would smoke most of the layoff lizards on this board.
Precisely, flja. That’s the mentality I’m talking about.
@faaf, There has been a general breakdown in all of society over the last 3 decades. It’s the result of the leftist enemy that has invaded our country on all fronts. The decay of values, morals and respect for others is accelerating every year. It’s being done by design. It’s all described in the Saul Alinsky book ‘Rules for Radicals’. There’s also too much narcissism these days.
Something has changed. When I was growing up, some people chose to obey laws and others chose to break laws. The lawbreakers knew they were committing crimes and there could be consequences for it. Today you have some people who obey laws and are ridiculed for doing so and others who choose to break laws because they now believe it is their God given right to do so. Just an observation.
No, I don’t think so @elhb. You are the ignorant one. Wake up, open your eyes, think seriously.
@ewuj is a fool.
Doesn't make it right, emag? That’s your opinion. Moral justice makes it very right. Read the Good Book, there’s lots of examples.
I heard there were some drillers recently put on probabtion for having Tinder on their company iPhone. A couple were married!
If the parrot metaphor is too heavy for you greenhorns and flakes, my alter ego tells me to go elsewhere to hurl insults. To be subsumed in Isaiah Berlin is a more effusive alternative also.
4luo - nobody is interested in what you think that’s why no-one is offering a counter-argument. You should stop repeating what others write....if they wanted a parrot they would buy one for crissake.
4pwy- you almost sound intelligent but keep trying. One day you might catch up with the lower order but best try get yourself an education.
It wouldn't surprise me, OP. You can be laid off for not tolerating being bullied and persecuted at Chevron. Of course, those doing it stupidly think that's the end of it once their victim has left the company.
@2kcv, you seem to be a fair judge of things, but not the keenest judge of character and nuanced situations. A deep thinker you are not. But, the government likes obedient and non-questioning sheep like you.
@2lud, I agree with you about Hillary. She is more than a criminal. She’s also a treasonous B**ch, which is far worse. But let’s not be so oblivious to recognize that way too many of our US politicians on both sides of the aisle are also cheating and conniving individuals that push the limits and occasionally break the law. These lofty elected officials have become the main reason for the breakdown and lack of respect for “the law”. Our judges are no better either. Don’t blame my point of view on having sympathy for the ex-employee who took his intellectual property with him when Chevron tossed him to the curb. I am able to understand the two sides of any situation. Just because Chevron has written policies that say they own everything you produce for the company, it doesn’t make it morally right when they fail to recognize your value and toss you out to save a buck, then they turn around and aim to impose their “legal” stance on their immoral action. Reflect on this before you type a knee jerk reply.
@2lud, Donald!, is that you? Welcome to the layoff site. Is this a one time troll or will you be with us losers in a more permanent role?
Now that you mentioned it, I remember the post from that person saying he took everything with him when he left Chevron. I suppose copying that kind of intellectual property will now be more difficult or impossible. But, vaguely recalling the details, it seemed to me at the time I read it, the person was in some regards justified in taking his own work with him. The company didn’t offer the dude much help and the product he produced resulted to be of very high value. In light that Chevron threw him out like yesterday’s news in one of the waves of layoffs gave me a sense of righteous payback. Call him a thief if you like. I sympathize with him.
The whole issue regarding thumb drives was ended when CVX banned their use. If anyone has the exemption still and continues to use it obviously they are being monitored. Regarding document security, the mandatory CBT we have to do every year on it makes it incredulous on an individual if he pretends he doesn't know what is or isn't company confidential.
As an employee in GOM’s Houston office, I have concerns associated with the topic. There is an employee that at one time saved all of his work files on a thumb drive. He saves all of the work that he does on a personal thumb drive. Does this behavior align with the topic?
All emails to personal and external accounts are monitored. Especially gmail. Don’t email your personal account. Do not email yourself anything that has anything to do with Chevron unless it’s something like your personal information as an employee of Chevron.
I don’t think it means leaving your smartbadge in your laptop while you are away from your desk. The actual poster can chime back in to elaborate. I’m thinking along the lines of copying files from your laptop’s hard drive or server location to a USB or portable drive. That kind of security violation could get you fired if the information is deemed sufficiently important.
What do you mean by security violation? Leaving your smartbadge in your laptop? Or something more significant?
There is no straight forward answer ... Depends on the nature of violation, the type of relationship you have with your supervisor and other higher upa in your organization and past precedence within the BU ...