During all hands, there was a question about salary differences and it was stated for same designation, there is difference of 35k to 50k.
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Qualcomm doesnt do any favour by paying for GC. Well legalfees for LCA and attorney fees total would be only $5000.00. There is no reason to expect person to perform sr staff engineer's job continuously for 2 years and yet deny any hike, when asked for negotiation. Well there is legal course for this it is called EEOC. Atleast manager cannot ask anyone to perform same duties at much lower salary. So stop expecting person to do lot of work for less payment.
FYI, I refused to work later when my salary hike was rejected. And now management cant expect me to work for 8 hours, if I get only paid for 4 hours of work.
People can choose to work or not, you can layoff people if you dont like. Sop complaining that they work only for 4 hours. There is no such legal recourse for enforcing any working hours.
They can sit at desk and play games.
I never said at start but as time passes and when others are promoted over you even though they dont work, that is BS. When management dont want to negotiate salary, then tell your management team to stop complaining about their employees, that employees do not work. Employee will not work for free. So stop whining about employee's work ethic. Qualcomm is profit company not NPO
So you value GC time and are willing to trade salary for that. That seems fair as the company is also spending money on legal fees and so on to get you your GC.
Seems fair.
You are also free to negotiate a higher salary. Just do it and stop whining. There is no legal recourse. Q is free to pay you whatever they want and you are free to accept or reject their terms.
Yes, I own my career and compensation. I chose to stay with Qualcomm even though I knew salary is low because my GC was being processed. Time is important for me to start process again. When I had confirmation, i didnt want to stay in that group where manager is so rude any longer.
I never said, qualcomm owns my career. I am just saying " dont keep quiet, file legal complain"- EEOC
Qualcomm doesnt know how to negotiate, only knows how to monopolise. It has suffered a lot and will in future. Dont forget, everyone does business to achieve a goal, not to stay in vacuum. So lower your tone else, you will be only one in vacuum.
If Qualcomm has not yet learnt lesson, shame on company.
You own your career and compensation.
If Q isn’t compensating you fairly, you need to really understand the definition of ‘fair’.
It’s fair if you stay there. They have an offer of compensation which you freely accept.
You can try to look elsewhere for work and go there if you find their offer is better. If you aren’t willing to do that, then your compensation, by definition is fair.
No one is forcing you to work at Q.
learning wont make me better? comparing, ahh I remember: ignorance is bliss.
Usual Q tactic: never correct problems. If someone complains issue is with them, but you dont correct issue. Let those people find another job. This mentality has done more damage than anything.
I suggested so many issues, if I could take action myself I would, but I dont have full control to take action myself. If suggested to management - their slogan: ignorance is bliss
They also say " you are complainer" . You have no choice but go outside because you cant accept such system.
learning and comparing with what others get won't make things better or make yourself happier, QC won't change a thing just because you don't like it, so, don't hope for anything to happen just by complaining, stay if you find any benefits of doing so, just leave for a new place if you don't like it
@UCL1, were you on H1b visa when your salary was pretty much fixed at 100k?
when i was at qualcomm, i gathered LCA information for similar positions and staff salries as well, for h1b candidate. LCA gives JD, salary ( base ) + title.
based on that I got where I stand, and I was furious to know that I was getting paid way below how much I was working. = project/program management support + engineering + product mangement.
Still my manager was saying I have poor work ethic.
Good, show your ethics first, before throwing stone on others
I have data from good sources: https://www.paysa.com , glassdoor, salary.com
h1Bdata.gov. This gives actually salaries for h1B candidates.
This is government site, you will see now Qualcomm hs removed its data from this site.
I am not saying other companies pay 200K+ salary outof blue or from some other social sites. I am refering to data from professional sites above.
On top these same managers expect you to maintain "working relationship".
Hello immature boss, working relationship doesnt happen just one way. You must full fill your part in it too.
any "mature" management wont play such mind games, where it is not even required to be played.
Only immature people play mind games. By saving penny for company managers dont get anything. May be temporary pat on back but definitely not monetary incentive.
Then why some managers are so stingy? what they achieve by paying just $108K base salary for 8 year experienced person and refusing twice promotion. From 2012 till 2015 my salary grew only from 100K to108K. US national inflation rate is also 3% minimum. If you see my base salary increament was <2% YoY. When you go for negotiation, manager has bunch of reasons not to give you higher salary. I am not sure what they are trying to achieve here?
Later when you leave team, they will spend time and money on new hire.
Wow, what a load of misinformation here. I have lived in both San Diego and Bay area. My bay area data is 1.5 years old though. In bay area, only the top tech companies were paying a base of 200k. That did NOT include apple or google. It was mostly sw companies like linkedin/fb or other startups with gobs of cash. (I’m talking about a typical 35/40 year old engineer, not directors/vps who make a sh--load).
The average sw or hw engineer in bay area does NOT make a base of 200k.
Total comp for senior staff is 220k+ in san diego. Base comp in san diego for a staff is 140k and for a sr staff around 165k. If you are not near these targets then you are underpaid. These are hw jobs, dont know about sw at qcom, but i suspect they are underpaid relative to even san diego market. With >3 years experience in title you should be above these targets. Total comp for staff is 200k +- 5%.
you just need style over substance. Learn to say " good morning" and "good aftrnoon" to you ur manager. Never disagree him, he can discuss your weaknesses, when you start negotiation, to show how he is super power and how you are no good to ask for more salary. Be very pleasing and good in talks , say "yes,yes" to ur boss and then you get promotion. But, if you work hard and miss these formalities, then you will be taken a revenge by denying you promotion.
" style matters more than substance"
Managers, use projects done by others, do some icing on readymade cake to get promotion. Even if project is not successful, they dont care, as long as above formalities are carried out.
You don’t need top engineers to do incremental snapdragon SOCs. Just hire 3rd rate engineers and use BDC to crank out the mid and low tier garbage.
There’s a reason Apple’s SOC destroys Snapdragon.
$168k in the bay area is not competitive... No wonder Q can not attract top engineers.
qualcomm pays $100 K to 8+/9 years experience. That is shame for both Qualcomm and employee.
Then it says you cant negotiate. When it comes to negotiating, managers, ignore you and think that you dont matter.
Then why go and do his work?
qualcomm gives $108K for 8+ years experience. That was my salary. So shame.
area factor is only 12%. HR apply that to base salary only.
if SD salary base = 150K then bay area base = 150x1.12 = 168 K not 200K
But in bay area companies are paying > 200K
Qualcomm takes advantage of place. What employees get by working in SD?
Is that with bonus and RSU?
Exactly. 200k in bay is c-ap for the area.
$200K/year in the Bay Area = ~$150K/year in SD
what's the point, everyone is aware of this issue. If you want to do something about it, get up and leave. (Like i will do soon)
Bonus is supposed to partially compensate the low base. But without a good management and healthy performance review system, most of the bonus goes to sr dir and dir's lickers pockets. They could easily get 3x of what you get by doing nothing but s---ing up. So, pay might not be too low for many people at q.
If you want Q to get into action, file legal complain, in this case EEOC. HR will come into action promptly, they will treat you like GOD, before that you were beggar.
Legal complain = prompt action for Q. Q reacts that proacts.
Such organizational redundancies prevail everywhere in Q. In name of performance, power and testing many teams are created which are doing exactly the same work but this help some people to grow and get promotion.
Not sure if anyone see these inefficiencies and try to correct them but it will help save Q lot of money, Reduce delays caused by artificial cadences created by multiple redundant teams.
@UCL1JbF-zol many times i asked AS the same question why that team doing SW work paid so high just because they are in graphics hardware team??? But no one wants to make change, same Q problem of no action.
I was in Graphics APT and was getting 142k as sr.staff. it was a great shock when heard test engineer in graphics compiler doing exact same work getting 185k. Good i got my GTFO package and now a better job than Q.
@UCL1JbF, there are many teams in GPU HW doing purely SW work and have HW knowledge similar to SW team. Graphics compiler is one such example, it is enjoying salary of HW doing pure SW work.
This is right taking example of GPU hardware and GPU SW. Sr.Staff in HW team on an average getting 180k while Sr.Staff in SW on an average getting 145k ( which is even less than staff salary in HW team)
HW team always get more money than SW. As such there is a valid reason to pay HW more because SW tom ,d, harry can write but needs skils to create HW design.