Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Get ready for massive layoffs! Latest 10Q Shows the final round of severance packages have been accrued.. but not paid

Get ready for the biggest layoff in the past ... decade? Its will be bigger than anything that happened this year so far. Here is an interesting thing to consider, how the Oracle 10q shows how much will be paid out in the final round of severance packages (assuming the date is May 31 2018)

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001341439/d68e7357-e1ab-40fe-88ba-56d6b1f79f76.pdf

The execs have used accrual accounting to make it less clear as to how many layoffs are about to come. If you look at the balance of 1,002M accrued to date and $1,114M total expected costs you might think..."whew" its all over. Maybe 114M left to go... but "Accrued" does not mean "paid." It just means that they already counted for the expense of your severance package, you just have not gotten it yet. Oh... and by the way we decided we might need an extra 114 Million in additional severance packages.

If you look at the last 10q it showed over 400 million in severance packages to be paid out... lets bump that up to a minimum of 514 Million. What that means is everything that has happened so far from May 31st 2017 until now... was just half the picture. Get ready for the second half of the restructuring costs to be paid out. But what really is the expected final number? If they are using accrual accounting then we have to deduce what the remaining cash payments must be.

If we look at the cash payments its 452 Million plus 30 Million in adjustments... for a total of 482 Million in cash payments. If the total is expected to be 1,114M then the cash payments to come should be 1114 - 482 = 632 Million in severance packages. That is bigger than the combined total so far to date.

The big splash has yet to come and we know the deadline is May 31 2018.

Fiscal 2017 Oracle Restructuring Plan notes that it is "Restructuring costs recorded for individual line items primarily related to employee severance costs."

Total breakdowns are as follows:

Cloud and on-premise software $300 (Or 27% of total severance packages)

Hardware $241(Or 22% of total severance packages)

Services $130 (Or 11% of total severance packages)

Other $443 (Or 40% of total severance packages)

Its the "Other" that has me worried... over 40% could be anyone. What we do know is that less than half the 1,114M has been paid out. We have 70 days to disperse with $632,000,000 dollars in cash payments to employees with severance packages.

It will be a blood bath. We know that Oracle has finalized its Austin Campus and class of programs. We also know its closing several other offices.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/news/2018/03/12/oracle-slashing-its-minneapolis-office-space.html

Oracle Corp.’s Minneapolis office is shrinking as the tech company shakes up its operations across the country.... This month it began moving thousands of employees into a new, 560,000 square foot campus in Austin Texas. It also recently posted ads for hundreds of job opening in Seatle, where it has leased 160,000 square feet.

Seems like the rumors of office shrinkage and closing is correct. It also seems like the end is very near. A massive layoff is coming as MH's vision for a new Oracle with a cheaper employee workforce (AKA "class of") is becoming reality.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but better to get 70 days notice, than the zero notice Oracle corporate policy gives you. The rumors appear to be true and the 10q shows the biggest payout has yet to come! Get ready! You have been warned....

Best of luck to one and all!

One final note. We all know how this will end for Oracle. For us change is good and the market is awesome with less than 5% unemployment. Get ready to take the money and run. Besides, just look at how happy MH is to see his dreams come true. Its a huge move, and he has seen his vision through to the end.

https://twitter.com/MarkVHurd/status/939241479649632256

https://twitter.com/MarkVHurd/status/950782694144622592

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Post ID: @OP+SjU3ajk

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The PE ratio in the 50s is high because of the large one time charge for this quarter, but regardless, with earnings growth forecasts for next quarter in the flat to 3% range, the company's hand seems to be forced to further reduce costs through layoffs and other means. Unfortunately layoffs alone won't be enough to support the stock price. A significant improvement in earnings growth is needed. With cloud growth seeming to headed in the wrong direction, I just don't see how this is going to happen.

Next quarter will be very interesting.

Also kudos to the OP for some great analysis of the latest 10Q.

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Post ID: @1mah+SjU3ajk

The talk from VP's was there were going to be more significant layoffs but it was never quantified. I remember reading the original numbers and doing the mental calculations and they were either going to have a lot left over or there will be more layoffs.

Apart from the big drop in the stock price of the past few days due to the poor results, which doesn't even go "ex-dividend" until next month, is the sky high P/E ratio - it's running at about 56. 10-15 is classed as good and normal, while up to 30 is doable but then you're getting into dot com bubble territory. 56 is just waaay overvalued and the sales trends aren't looking great. We all know one of the levers used to control this. It's going to be a fascinating 6 months.

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Post ID: @qxn+SjU3ajk

I believe it, there have not been enough layoffs in the second half of FY 2018 to make up the right numbers. Biggest one is still coming. Makes sense it would happen after the Austin hub goes online AND after the bad news about the sales forecast. They need to make a good show about being financially responsible... reduce the workforce in accordance with the bad forecast forward.

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Post ID: @ozr+SjU3ajk

Let me summarize:

1) Oracle is telling us through the 10K that there are 10,000s layoffs to come. The numbers don't lie.

2) Oracle's CFO has a "margins uber alles" philosophy, competing against AWS, which doesn't care about margins.

3) According to the 10K, Cloud margins are declining due to increasing cost of sales.

4) With anemic cloud revenue growth forecasts, as low as 19%, the only way to get margins is to layoff staff and cut compensation (which will cause attrition). SC historically has squeezed margins out of the employees.

This is fact, not fake news or old news. Big layoffs are still to come.

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Post ID: @cyz+SjU3ajk

So this is real news, folks. The 10Q paints a true an accurate picture of the layoffs at Oracle reported to the federal government, specifically to the UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION. Lies placed here carry heavy penalties for the executives, they could face fraud and criminal charges.

Lies on made live on CNBC face no such penalties.

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001341439/d68e7357-e1ab-40fe-88ba-56d6b1f79f76.pdf

The "Cash Payments" column has to match the "Total Expected Program Costs" column. Accounting is pretty simple, in the end the debits and credits have to equal.

However, the OP made a small error. One page 16, if we look at the cash totals on Total restructuring plans (in millions) its $(22) adjustments plus $(452) or $(474) total cash pay out. The total remaining is 1,114 - 474 = 640.

We have 640M in severance packages to be delivered by end of Q4 FY18. That date is May 31 2018. In simple terms 640M / 1114M = 57%. More than half the layoffs for the FY17 restructuring plan have yet to come. Everything combined that happened this fiscal year since May 31 2017 is less than half of what we will see in the next two months.

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Post ID: @acs+SjU3ajk

From10Q filing.

The total estimated remaining restructuring costs associated with the 2017 Restructuring Plan were approximately $112 million as

of February 28, 2018 and the majority of the remaining costs are expected to be incurred through the end of fiscal 2018.

Q4 2018 - ENDS May 31 2018.

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Post ID: @kvb+SjU3ajk

Sales year end is May 31. They (Mgmt) know 90% how the quarter will finish on May 1. Sales layoffs last year happened at the end of May. It’s REAL NEWS, this post.

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Post ID: @rsp+SjU3ajk

@SjU3ajk-zvg They are already quitting and going to Salesforce, Workday, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Tableau, Talend, Mulesoft (now bought by SFDC). The market is hot. They know ORCL is a sinking ship with MH at the helm.

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Post ID: @orn+SjU3ajk

Great posy and very true, all the data points to a blood bath come FY end. Start looking for new jobs everybody, now!

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Post ID: @cem+SjU3ajk

You are blowing smoke...where is you evidence. Crap FAKE post just trying to get your former colleagues to quit and join you on the unemployment line.

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Post ID: @zvg+SjU3ajk

I would also caution you to look at patterns. Most layoffs hit the Salesforce in very early June, which is early next year. Those layoffs might not even be included in this numbers. Just saying. It could be even worse.

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