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Can't fail students anymore

I used to teach there for 15 years (2001-2016) and the last 2-3 years things got out of control. They did not allow me to flunk students and demanded that I changed grades for certain of them. Once, I had an evaluator who came into my classroom and took over the class discussion. That was unprofessional and uncalled for. My students did not appreciate that and told me that this for-profit university had lacked a common sense all together.

Very similar thing happened to me, @PJIwaM2-2sqb. Not only was I not allowed to flunk a student, I had to adjust the grade up. How is this legal is beyond me.

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Camden, looks to me that in 2010 UoP didn't have their paperwork figured out. I can tell you, these days, every grade change is made with a paper trail to back it up. Adjuncts play ball if they want to continue to teach and 99% do. Some don't come back but who cares. Adjuncts are like toilet paper, they deal with all the Sh!t, cost nothing, and there are thousands of them needing work.

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Post ID: @5veb+PM0I12P

Camden...are you still an emoloyee of the college? I was simply wondering.

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Post ID: @4mvq+PM0I12P

This is a school who keeps those full-time faculty who don’t teach, copy off a wiki (not all, but many), and had the highest pass rates. One who was kept only graded on grammar, didn’t answer student questions, and didn’t meet the minimum requirements. They don’t care about good teachers. They care about teachers who pass students.

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Post ID: @3iqt+PM0I12P

@PM0I12P-2dzk, one of the first whistleblowers to contact me was a University of Phoenix instructor who said she was coerced (not just encouraged) into passing students that did not deserve to pass. She also mentioned that several other instructors at that her UoPX campus were also coerced into passing students--and provided significant documentation. The instructor felt so compelled that in 2010 she took the issue up to the corporate office (Director of Faculty Grievances & Appeals) in Phoenix--and nothing was done. The campus has since closed. Perhaps this was just one campus, but maybe it wasn't. Since then, I several other whistleblowers contacted me, and their information did help in the long run. At any point, Apollo Group and University of Phoenix could have listened to these ethical people and made necessary connections, but they didn't.

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Post ID: @3dwl+PM0I12P

Camden - you used to teach. Come on! The form is called 'grade appeal' and students can submit them for no good reason really but the most common reasons given, because students know these work, are 'I'm being discriminated against', 'the professor is racist', 'the professor hates me because of XYZ'.

So now the the student's body of work gets assigned to one or more professors for re-grading. If the school is smart, and most are, if they want to get rid of the student because the student is a pain the rear and not worth the tuition attached to the student's head, they give the work to a known harda$$ grader who will fail the student with brutal finality. If they want to hang on to the student, and most of your for-profits really want to, they give the work to known professors who tow the for-profit line and lo and behold, a very legal grade change.

Because grading is not an objective science. Grading these days is a subjective form of art for pretty much anything. Yes, even math classes. You should see what committees can produce with bla bla that amounts to 'the student showed improvement therefore they get the better grade'. Very legal. Followed outlined processes and procedures.

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Post ID: @2dzk+PM0I12P

The spin is on

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Post ID: @2czq+PM0I12P

Either this is made up, or it’s a rare (and not sanctioned) exception. It certainly isn’t an action the University would promote.

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Post ID: @2nyo+PM0I12P

@PM0I12P-1akl, grade inflation is one thing. Being told you have to change grades in another.

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Post ID: @1btv+PM0I12P

Re Camden: What do you want people to blow the whistle on? Accreditors know about the grade inflation and complete lack of academic integrity and can't do sh-- about it. You can't shut a school down for delivering a terrible product with terrible customer service and terrible return policy. Look at what Everest and ITT got called on the mat for. False advertising and financial mismanagement. UoP's advertising is spot on and they have some financial powerhouses in the background managing the finances.

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Post ID: @1akl+PM0I12P

@PM0I12P, Veterans Education Success is looking for whistleblowers.

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Post ID: @1mnj+PM0I12P

Why are you lying?

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Post ID: @isj+PM0I12P

Lack of common sense is rampant here

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Post ID: @rkw+PM0I12P

Sad, but true.

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