Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

All BS and abuse, no one looking into it. Check three pages of job advertisements in very small fonts in Sunday news paper from various technology companies. None readable even using magnifying glasses and asking to send resume through postal mails (high tech companies with no emails or online access). All designed for not to get any responses or loose or delay any responses. Some H1B positions even starting next month after massive layoffs this month.

The definition of "H1B dependent employer" is BS. If the entire Citrix engineering and IT departments consisted only of H1B employees, but those departments accounted for 14.99% of the TOTAL employee headcount, the government would say we are NOT an H1B dependent employer. Doesn't seem right does it?

Visa abuse and fraud all over, Companies / Lawyers awake and busy, Government and Labor Department in deep sleep.

@gkrn Don't think we should be giving passes to people who like to get in on the hate wagon without doing adequate research. Yes, there is abuse, but the prevailing sentiment here is that every H-1B worker has taken away the job of an american worker. You need to blame the government and these companies for the low prevailing wage rate as opposed to mocking H-1B workers, who merely want to be a part of "the greatest country in the world". If the H-1B is applied at a state level, where the minimum wage of the H-1B needs to be at least as much as the average wage in the area for a position (see the link from @gzwm), only then will companies change their stance.

Check: http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/h1b.html

@gxpb Thanks for demonstrating that you totally misunderstood the type of visa abuse being discussed in that video. Like most H-1Bs, you listen to the first five words someone says, start nodding your head incessantly, and then rush to speak so that you can hear your own brilliance.

"how would a potential H1-B read a Sunday paper for an American town?" Again, you didn't understand the video, but I'll humor you with this one. Many H-1Bs sponsored by Citrix were originally on an F-1 student visa. That means they lived in the US for several years and would have had ample opportunity to read their Sunday newspaper of record. The rest of your team must be in awe of your critical thinking skills.

Hiring H1B people with a low or minimal motivation leads to a low quality of the product. I see this aspect every day in my team.

@gibp A few anonymous trolls don't imply racist coworkers. And pointing out educational and cultural differences is not racism. In fact, I would say the posters below are not motivated by racial animus, they just flat-out misunderstand how H1-B advertisements work and base their grievances on these misunderstandings.

Visa abuse is an undeniable, documented issue, and we should all be on the lookout for abusive behaviour; however, Citrix specifically is not an H1-B dependent employer, and hiring foreigners is not the cause of poor product management.

Hilarious how so many at Citrix are so insecure about competition and their ability to survive that they have to resort to blaming all their problems on H-1Bs. Don't think there's too many H-1Bs in Sales, HR and Support at Citrix, so this whinging lot is exclusively engineering. The racists on here come from the 5 floors in 899. There's not that many of you, you know. The worst ones are those who post here anonymously only to be cool with H-1Bs at work. Hate to break it to you, but you know who you are and so do we.

@7hui Please think before sh--posting. Abuse in the software industry is well documented and undeniable, HOWEVER, the video indicates you advertise FOR the Perm process - i.e. if I want to hire someone, I have to advertise, in the Sunday paper for example, that their job is available to American workers. But you cannot say "I am hiring H1-B workers" in the Sunday paper - how would a potential H1-B read a Sunday paper for an American town?

@6jcr "you can't advertise jobs specifically to H1-B. That's illegal."

Without any advertisement how employers prove "that there are no available willing and qualified U.S. workers for the given job." It's abusing H1B and Green-cards program.

@6jcr "you can't advertise jobs specifically to H1-B. That's illegal."

I suspect the quality of your code is about as good as your understanding of how employers abuse the H-1B program:

https://youtu.be/TCbFEgFajGU

YOU STILL HAVE TO GO BACK

@jjt you can't advertise jobs specifically to H1-B. That's illegal. People on H-1B are not always replacements - they could have been employees already, and recently have gotten a visa.

@ijfu...this is just sad. These people are your coworkers. I really hope you are not a Citrite, and just a random troll.

151 Laid Off 2017

H1B + Green-Cards Hired > Laid Off

How many laid off?

91 Green-cards in 2017

http://visadoor.com/greencards/index?company=Citrix&job=&country=&state=&year=2017&submit=Search

107 H1B hires in 2017

http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=citrix&job=&city=&year=2017

||| This is because they are required by USCIS to post it there for people on whose behalf the

||| company had filed green-card - it doesn't mean that these are new requirement or open position.

NOT TRUE, NOT TRUE AT ALL.

LC : employer must follow a process to prove to the Department of Labor (DOL) that there are no available willing and qualified U.S. workers for the given job.

LCA: The form is the vehicle by which an employer attests that it will protect wages by paying the H-1B employee a stated amount, protect working conditions, by not making the H-1B worker under conditions different from his/her U.S. counterparts and not displace U.S. workers.

!!!!! . . . . . H1B / Green-card filing and firing all over at same time . . . . . . . Signal to USCIS !!!!!

Let's get it right: Citrix uses F-1 -> OPT -> H-1B so we can get an extra 3 years out of our indentured servants.

Folks - "now hiring" means new interviews with new H1B or F1 -> H1B candidates just started after last week layoff !!!

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

I heard, there are at least 10 to 12 advertisements on HR board all the time for H1B just in Santa Clara

This is because they are required by USCIS to post it there for people on whose behalf the company had filed green-card - it doesn't mean that these are new requirement or open position. Guess what, as someone else pointed in a different thread, they might have been impacted as well.

REPORTH1BABUSE@USCIS.DHS.GOV

I heard, there are at least 10 to 12 advertisements on HR board all the time for H1B just in Santa Clara

while at the same time firing is going on.

Call your congresspeople and call the media, especially in Florida.

I can confirm from direct sources that Citrix is hiring new folks with H1B visas and low wages in the same teams that laid off people last week (in Santa Clara).

DAS RACIST