Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Support consolidation to be completed in FY18

Sarwal is hellbent on making his legacy. After eviscerating software support, he's out to destroy systems support now. Without a consideration for anything or anyone, he's proceeding with his plan to consolidate all support centers to four locations globally: USA, Romania, India and China.

It's going to be a disaster, but the process is underway and Sarwal vowed to complete it by the end of FY18.

Everyone in support not based in these locations is going to get their pink slip in the coming months.

Poland was completed one week ago, next up is Spain (layoffs start in just a few weeks, mid-June). Europe should be done before the end of this calendar year.

It would all be fine and fair if Oracle had recruited and trained enough people over the last few years. Except for one simple problem: support isn't ready for this. Oracle has not recruited enough people to take over the workload, let alone trained them enough to provide support for escalated issues.

Sure, there are some really smart people hired, and I suppose that they could have taken over escalation point roles (former PTS) in the next 10-20 years, assuming they would actually stay that long (most of them quit after a few years because they get better paid positions elsewhere).

Wake up call for you, Oracle: Support costs a lot. But if you don't have support, you won't have any customers.

It's going to be a disaster. One that could have been completely averted if it wasn't for Sarwal. He wants to make a name for himself. Any why not? I mean, he had a dilemma in the beginning:

  • leave support alone as it is

  • make an upheaval

Leaving support alone would have been right for the next decade. Let replacements be trained, then complete it in the mid-2020s. But that's not good enough for executives.

So he decides to make an upheaval. Executives love it because it shows initiative, directors love it because it makes it easy for them to implement decisions that are frankly stupid, but let them cover up the sloppy job they do and they don't have to worry about the boring stuff like fixing inefficiencies and keeping a close eye on statistics.

There are two possible outcomes: either support will tank or it will succeed. If it succeeds, then all those responsible will be hailed as heroes (as though they had anything to do with the success) and will get lavished with praise. If it tanks, then, oh well, they tried, didn't they? They took a risk and it turned out to have been more difficult. They will blame it on external factors, they will blame it on those that failed to follow through, and so on.

And then they will go to another position at another company, leaving a trail of destruction in their wake.

You'll find a new job. But trust me, if you see certain people join your company, especially your vertical, run fast, run far and don't look back.

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Post ID: @OP+NwQohWf

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Final notice for France will be June 6th. So rumors tell, next country in line is Spain (sometime this summer) and September it will hit UK. Germany will be the last large country standing and will probably fall after September, but probably still in 2017 wrapped as nice Christmas gift.

But nothing about BeNeLux and Italy so far.

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Post ID: @3fxc+NwQohWf

Layoffs in support org. hit the France today

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Post ID: @3keq+NwQohWf

Nope, that's not an Oracle site. FWIW, BA did outsource all its IT last year, and it's their second major c----up.

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Post ID: @1aao+NwQohWf

Does British Airways rely heavily on Oracle for back end IT? Could poor Oracle support have contributed to this? http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18Q0K9?il=0

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Post ID: @1tla+NwQohWf

It's all about what the spreadsheet says thus all about SC and her bonus

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Post ID: @1oxf+NwQohWf

@NwQohWf-cud LOL, as I partially observed and as someone described it to me before I left, literally there were a couple grandmas who were building what looked like a soup instead of services support. Customers who were coming in for a steak were being served a warm soup instead, insult to injury the grandmas forgot to add any meat -- a warm vegetable soup that was.

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Post ID: @1wxa+NwQohWf

Come on guys. Shutting down entire regions is a SC level decision. Her fingerprints are all over this.

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Post ID: @1kae+NwQohWf

Having worked with this VP he seems incapable of making this level of decision on his own.

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Post ID: @zgw+NwQohWf

He did a good job las year and he got promoted to HW

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Post ID: @ogi+NwQohWf

I think that Sarwal is resposible for extermination of software support centers and afaik this was completed last year. Right now they axing Solaris and HW systems support and rather other VPs is responsible for that. It follows that decision was made by CEOs.

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Post ID: @xzf+NwQohWf

Of course this is s terrible strategy that will only serve to further piss off customers - nobody told the oracle of execs that cloud is about service. Now let me tell you how it came about: SC and her staff put together a spreadsheet which shows great savings and says nothing about the negative effects of poor service and so LE jumped on the savings and its now being executed. Stupid is as stupid does, but hey, SC gets to collect tens of millions in bonus, great gig if you can get it. Who said you can't make obscene amounts of money destroying a public company!

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Post ID: @uyr+NwQohWf

@NwQohWf-vnb : On one hand, you're right. He just executes what has been decided above him. On the other hand, it's a coward's defense.

Every reasonably smart VP would resist this foolhardy plan by delaying it if not derailing it outright. A person with any integrity would refuse and walk out the door.

I had been wondering what happened to his predecessor. It seems fairly obvious now.

Agreeing to the plan only to please the executives shows lack of any foresight. Sure, if the plan succeeds despite all odds against it, he gets to be praised and lavished. When it fails, he'll be thrown under the bus, but he'll get to exercise his stock options, get his golden parachute, and leave to destroy something else (if the experience fails to teach him anything).

Thing is, you can't dive headfirst into unknown waters. In this case, they're diving blind straight into rock bottom. There's no water.

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Post ID: @paw+NwQohWf

Oracle has a la famiglia type of support org full of dinosaurs. He named VP his girlfriend he came back with from VMWare, while everybody else who didn't speak the language of the family was showed the door.

I don't think closing all the support centers is his decision, probably the CEOs decided and he just executes.

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Post ID: @vnb+NwQohWf

They took over one of the best customer support in the word - Sun Microsystems, and they destroy it. RIP

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Post ID: @vmp+NwQohWf

I have to admit, it's true and it's well written. Chile, Poland and some other countries was wiped off the map of support centers. Next will be Spain and probably France..

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Post ID: @kel+NwQohWf

Customers are pissed. They are not happy with the crappy support they pay all this money for. Customers are looking to alternatives from cloud vendors and open source so they can move as far away from Oracle and avoid them in the future.

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Post ID: @cud+NwQohWf

Oracle doesn't care about customers. When was the last time one of the 3 stooges had a real conversation with a customer ? Never?

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Post ID: @bll+NwQohWf

I'd be careful with using names here, check the site rules.

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Post ID: @lcn+NwQohWf

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