Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

@J85z1IO-gbod, ooooh you poor little adolescent butthurt BAYBAY!!! You are trying to justify being a pathetic scum-bag thief and a parasitic loser who cannot stand up on his own two feet like a real man? You poor pitiful baby. You not only have no moral integrity, you have no balls. You are a bottom feeder svcking from the government TIT like a little LOSER PARASITE BABY and you can't even own up to it. Yea, I bet you sleep well at night. I got some news for you, the IRS is coming after you. You are not STEALING FROM THE GOVERNMENT YOU ARE STEALING FROM YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. Carry on low-life parasite loser. Other people around here have integrity and no time for scum-bag loser criminal parasites with NO MORALS. Take your criminal activities and SCRAM.

-fora, No moral integrity and has to worry at night about being audited by the IRS? Is that what they have thought you to think? So laughable. Maybe when you put in 40+ years working, you'll come around to seeing things clearly.

My moral integrity is defined by ME, not you or anyone else. What I'm doing is keeping my integrity intact by actually acting on what I've protested many years, overtaxation. And about worrying at night about the IRS auditing me. What is there to worry about? I report everything I must to the IRS to avoid being audited. I report only the payments I get by check and a small amount I collect in cash. Like I said previously, I file my 1040 and report up to the limit necessary to avoid paying any tax after exemptions and expenses. So continue railing against me and others who are now exercising their smarts and the opportunity to get even. We just sit back and laugh and count our money. Keep working for Chevron and paying your obligatory taxes. I start collecting my Social Security very soon and your taxes are needed to keep that agency going.

@J85z1IO-gsho, Don't get all riled up about Tax-evading Crooked-Bob. He not only had to steal to get where he is, he has no moral integrity and has to worry at night about being audited by the IRS, since he is committing a federal crime. He is the loser who thinks that other people in the exact same boat as him should carry the load to pay the taxes and he doesn't have to, he can just milk and sponge like a little liberal parasite and use public roads, streets, highways and all public services that others pay for. He is special. He thinks he's better than you, that's the way pathetic parasite liberals are. He thinks that other people who worked their entire lives paying taxes and payed well more than him, because they are honest, should carry his pathetic loser sponge A--. He is the equivalent of an illegal immigrant, not a true American, The tax-payers will be surprised that they don't have an entire A$$ to carry. It is much smaller and more pathetic. They only have to carry him, an A$$-hole!

-gaio, Yes, it's OK to commit a federal crime in your mind because you have determined for yourself that since no one gets killed it's OK. You keep thinking that, douche-bag. Hope you sleep well at night, just like Sponge-Bob Crooked-pants the tax evader with no moral integrity who posts on here routinely. I'm proud and happy to pay my taxes, and quite honestly, I can afford it. However, I do not think that the system is fair. A flat tax and loophole elimination would be more equitable.

So looks like gjxw took the bait and ran with it. Turkey. You aren't running any business and you sure aren't a millionaire like you claim. No, you are a buthurt loser sitting around all day posting on this site and likely others as well. Get a life dude. Let it go about Chevron firing you so you can move on. There is more to life than Chevron. Go out there and find it. You can do it. Maybe do some volunteer work just to get things started and get out of the house. Best of luck.

@ghbq, I'm one person who have posted here about the cash businesses I started after being laid off. I come to this site for entertainment, information and to vent a little about my contempt for Chevron's management and ways. As far as my time, I finance and run my businesses from home. I hire my capable workers who do the actual work and I pay all the expenses and keep half the profits. I don't mind posting my tax evasion here, as I am telling it as it is. I am providing information for some of my colleagues who may not find work after being laid off, this is something to fall back on. As for me, I didn't need to fall back on this line of work. I'm a millionaire after 27 years with Chevron. I do this to get even with the IRS and claw back some of the overtaxation this government took from me. And don't worry about me, @ghbq. I'm not stupid. I know my post can be traced. That's why I always access this site from a proxy server. This post is being bounced off four servers in four distinct countries before it gets posted here.

Folks I believe we are being BS'd on this topic of tax evasion. No businessman running a business much less 2 or 3 has the time to post on sites like this and brag about not paying taxes. Not only that, unless they are very low IQ, they wouldn't take even the slight risk that a trolling IRS person would see it and find ways to track them down and prosecute them. Probably just beat to ignore this a-- clown and maybe he'll start looking for a job before his unemployment runs out.

@gbqm, that's a third grade mentality you have comparing the morals of tax evasion with killing another person. Get real, kid.

@J85z1IO-ftde, No, not at all. You have no self-respect and get none from others and deserve none. There are a lot of people in the nearby big city wher I live who kill one another daily, it's in the news that I see everyday. "Everybody's doing it" I guess that makes it OK for me to go murder people left and right. Maybe I can steal their money too, as you are doing to other honest tax-payers. "Come on, man! Don't you think everyone else who run "cash" businesses do this?" NO. Honest law-abiding true American Patriots do not Rape their neighbors by not paying their share of taxes while other's in their EXACT SAME SITUATION WITH THE EXACT SAME RESOURCES, TIME PAYING ALONG THE WAY AND YEARS OF WORK PUT IN - Stand up and Pay their taxes like real men and women with integrity, not resort to petty crime as dishonest cowards because they can do it from hiding without detection, and brag about it on the internet like high-school children. Thanks for reading.

You're correct, fkcm, in that I fall below the federal tax threshold after exemptions and expenses. Since I run a 95% cash business, I can report just enough to reach the limit where I would owe taxes. Come on, man! Don't you think everyone else who run "cash" businesses do this? Of course, and you'd be crazy if you didn't. Cash is anonymous and the IRS doesn't have the resources to follow up pursuing what they consider us to be, small potatoes. And as it goes for respect, all I need is my own self-respect and that of my family and close friends, which I solidly have. I'm a go-getter and a great provider for my family. It's all about family.

@J85z1IO-fhsf, Are you one and the same as the criminal parasite sponge below who is milking their fellow tax-payers? If so - review earlier comments. You do not really even deserve a reply much less any respect, which you give none and will receive none.

Unless of course you make below the tax threshold. whatever it is, then I take that back. something like approx $10k $14 Head of household single $20k jointly. A little more over 65. (~$23k?)

I am assuming you are not since you just admitting that you are concealing it.

Taxes are not something that each of us can just choose willy nilly when we pay or not, at least not legally. Someone is paying for you at that point and you are not paying your fair share. Its not a matter of whether you think the system is fair. IT's NOT. Point taken. But all you are doing is saying let everyone else pay while I don't because I'm special and entitled.

I went from $126k to $0k, as far as the IRS is concerned. I earn a small but nice cash income stream on the side. The best part is that I don't pay any taxes. I finance this side gig. It earns me my beer and vacation money and is also paying for my new decked out F250 and fifth wheel luxury trailer. Happy retirement folks.

I went from 140k to 40k. New job is fun though; somewhat like a vacation/mini-retirement.

• fksw, Awesome for you, but better you than me. Sounds WAY to much like work and responsibilities to me, which I have left far behind for others.

Thought I was retired, but now I am a full-time vacation planner - LOL!

What a crock. Now excuse me while I pick the cheese from between my toes.

Don't think I could be better, was pretty much retiring anyway and got a years PSG-25 pay in advance, plus education incentives, of which I'll use every cent of. Still haven't touched a cent of my retirement or 401K money and probably won't until next year, and only then cause it will start to reduce in value, instead of growing at a health rate, as it is now. Running "a few" small businesses, with a net income that actually beats my final Chevron Salary, including CIP, in what I get to keep. The difference is control of those dollars, as either salary, or profit, or re-investment, with me getting to directly benefit from the success of my LLCs, and having a nice salary, but one that keeps me in a decent tax bracket, while my companies own lots of toys. These are the kinds of things that I had to use my already taxed dollars in the past to buy. No complaints here, a 30+ year sweet ride has gotten even sweeter post Chevron. BTW, I owe a debt of gratitude to Chevron, where I had great opportunities, worked with great people and made life long friends, had great accomplishments, saw the world, saved a few lives, made some money, and learned a lot about business and team collaboration, which is paying dividends to me now. Geaux Chevron!

Let me guess. @ewom is the Thai Spinners' manager. Aren't they performing at Treasures through October 31?

To ewom, can you describe the type of business you have? I need some idea help in deciding to start a small business that I can basically run by myself. Thanks.

I have been doing fine, but it has taken some adjusting. I still don't think that I am used to not going in everyday. You know, I have been following this thread and am one of those with a small business on the side and I clear about $5800 a month profit, not a lot but similar to that other guy with the multiple businesses, I imagine. I generally do just what you are posting about, I try to do mostly cash transactions, figuring it makes little difference but helps my bottom line. But after reading some of these pointed arguments, I think I may cut back on that. I honestly see the point that is being made here. It's not about the government wasting the revenue, or that you do not agree what it's being spent on, or that you think that you paid too much already, or other people abusing the system in multiple ways. It's about the bottom line - These taxes are going to be paid, and all you are doing are shifting the load to the next guy just like you, in the same situation as you, the only difference is he is honest and you are not. And you are declaring yourself above the law, since it is breaking the law to not pay the required amount. And you have declared yourself to be entitled to more than others in the same situation as you, who paid just as much along the way as you. Deductions are something else all together and we are legally entitled to do that so. Sorry for such a long post.

@J85z1IO-eyew, Yes, that's the spirit. Carry 10% of the load that many working men and women do happily their entire lives with no problems and without even a bit of a complaint. You're a pathetic worthless loser and a criminal with no morals, but continue to feebly try to falsely justify your illegal tax-evading actions. It's not only laughable, it's keeping many readers well entertained!!! I can't wait for the next lame excuse why you don't pay your share of taxes when others in your exact same situation proudly step up to the plate and do so with dignity and honor with a smile on their face.................

I'm sure with the taxes I'm contributing to the government by declaring only 10% of my true income, our country can sustain itself quite well and also care for its poor. Think of it as a Flat Tax of sorts, which I favor. Any amount more than that is called waste, fraud, graft and corruption. I refuse to participate in that "system" anymore.

Good Point, -eqfl, we as responsible citizens should be compassionate of those on social programs who are not able to or are not mentally competent enough to support themselves. These people are typically mentally or physically disabled and rely on these programs and our tax dollars to support them and they are generally pathetic, pitiful losers in life suffering from numerous problems, not just financial. And all of the ones I have met are thoroughly grateful for the assistance in their time of need as I'm sure -eznt is ,(a member of this same pathetic group of losers) for our help, he just has a hard time showing it.

God Bless you -eznt. Just please try not to steal from the collection box at church.

Eznt: if we all did like you, how would we support all the folks on welfare and other benefit programs? Have you no mercy for those folks?

Paying taxes out of your nose and a$$ might be your thing, not mine. Or it might not be within your control to decide since you are employed by Chevron. But I'm in control now. I have my side businesses set up and churning out cash. Only a complete fool would pay Uncle Sam full tilt by declaring all cash receipts. My Secret to Success is declaring 1 buck for every 10 earned.

Yes indeed. There are some among us who feel that the law does not apply to them. There is one trolling this thread. I put them in the same category as Crooked Liar Shillary Clinton.

-dkgf, Yes, you go your way as a parasitic leech criminal law-breaker who mooches off of others and sponges off your peers in society who ALSO have to pay the same exact very taxes that you claim you are entitled not to, and I will go on my way as a Honest, Hard-working, Tax-paying person who has to support your pitiful, self-deprecatory, parasitic, criminal, thieving, worthless slime-bag A$$. Sounds like a plan!! Watch your back!!! THE TAX MAN COMMETH !!!!!!!!!

-dqee, the LAW you refer to that decides whether or not you are a criminal, is in fact the LAW that the criminals in high places of our government impose on all of us hard working citizens. I don't respect any LAW that doesn't apply to everyone equally. You go your way and I'll go mine.

-duxi, It is the LAW that decides whether or not you are a criminal, not your feelings on the subject, unfortunately for you. -dlpl It is wonderful that you were able to get out of that cesspool, inhabited by the likes of -duxi, who abuse the rights of workers and employ said immigrants illegally for pennies and pay nothing back into the system that he milks from. Good Success Story from an Honest, Hard-working, Tax-paying Citizen who deserves the wonderful life that you made for yourself.

Enjoy CO!

Hey guys, including sponge-Bob tax evader, let's keep this thread honest, and pertinent to law-abiding activities, and don't go off topic., I don't think it was "How much are you stealing from the government lately" - It's how are you recently laid-off people making out. I would like to hear more anecdotes, ideas and encouragement, not insight into criminal wrongdoings. Thanks, and any NEW comments welcome.

I'm a recent laid off CVX employee. After 27 years, I EOI'ed near my anticipated retirement age and took a handsome severance check in the process. Thanks for everything Chevron. I sold my upscale home in suburban Houston and bought a nice down sized home in Fort Collins, CO. I couldn't be happier. Houston became an intolerable cesspool of foreign immigrants from third world countries in the last 8 years or so. I had to get out of that place. Thank God I had the means to get out an retire. This area of the Colorado country is great. Fresh air, nice folks, and lots of outdoor things to do. I find bicycle riding to be so enjoyable. The big plus is the improved demographics up near north of Denver.

I can assure you, dkvg, that I sleep much better at night now than when I was an employee. There's a soothing comfort in being in control that lifts an enormous weight off one's shoulders. That weight used to be high taxes and no way to free myself from it. As a cash business employer, I have the control I needed and have the deep satisfaction of being able to employ my workers, help the local economy and pay the least amount of taxes possible.

Calling criminal what I do is so far from the truth. Criminal is what the American tax system has become since we landed at Plymouth Rock. We are now a system of taxation without representation. Why don't you sit down to figure exactly what percentage the government takes from your annual earnings. Don't stop at Federal Taxes. Tack on the other taxes that are either hidden or overt, like: State Income Taxes (if you live in such a state), Property Taxes, Sales Taxes, Excise Taxes, Value-Added Taxes, Surcharges, Recovery Taxes, and the list goes on. Factor-in other government mandated costs one must pay, such as: Insurance (Medical, Home, Car) unless you opt to pay a penalty.

So, in my case, now retired and liberating myself from the overextended grasp of the government and its agencies (when and to the extent possible) is invigorating and rewarding.

No, -dbch, We all MUST pay taxes and the correct amount according to the IRS by LAW, you just CHOOSE to live a life of crime, not pay your share of taxes and live as a criminal bottom-feeding leech, and I do not.

Hope you sleep well at night as a criminal. Nighty-night, sponge.

You continue paying exorbitant taxes because YOU MUST. I don't pay much at all because I CHOOSE.

@J85z1IO-dydb, Yes - That's Rich!!! "Because I am trying to justify my criminal, parasitic and pathetic bottom-feeding activities by falsehoods such as "I've paid my dues" or "I've put in my time" - the classic self-validating cliche's of the greedy, pathetic, criminalistic and useless, That means no one knows "economics" but me!!!!"

Too Funny!! Yes. I am contributing to the system. The system that supports parasitic leeches on society like you and allows you to exist as a mooch, one of the "takers" instead of a maker. Forgive me for being honest, tax-paying, wealthy, hard-working, employing hundreds of employees and happily supporting multiple charities as well while you milk and rape the system as a bottom-feeding parasitic leech on your neighbors and you country. Greedy parasitic worthless leeches like you milking the system, using resources and not giving back is why they need to seal the borders better.

@drtm, you need to take some classes in economics and understand how the world of business works. While I'm paying far less taxes than you are does not mean I'm a mooch or leach on society. I'm actually employing workers and paying them wages. These people turn around and put that money back into the local economy when they spend it. While I don't report all of my income to the IRS is one thing, calling me a mooch and leach is far from the truth. I don't take welfare money or food stamps, I simply don't contribute anymore to the federal tax ripoff system like I have for 40 years. Now it's my turn to balance the scorecard and keep more of my hard earnings. Justice is what I call it. One day when you can pull yourself away from the system, you will see things my way and appreciate it.

Ha ha ha - that's funny! I'm stealing from the IRS, my country, and my neighbors, but I am doing it in a way so it's not obvious so I think I may not get caught, so that makes it OK !! HAHAHAHA ! You can't make this stuff up. That's pretty desperate. I didn't think that getting laid off destroyed your character and turned you into a criminal. That's a miserable, pathetic existence like a bottom-feeding slithering worm. Hey guys it's just a job like many others, not the end of the world. Tighten up and be a man, not a criminal parasitic leech on society. Step up to the plate and make an honest living, there are plenty of things to do that do not involve crime if you have a good head on your shoulders.

@dpej, I am certainly paying federal taxes, but only as little as necessary to keep the IRS away. My effective tax rate is only around 3.5% and I get to clear an average of $2800 each week. I would say I'm committing a crime, only emulating the antics of the very rich and politically connected.

I prefer Rolling Rock with a big serving of boiled cabbage.

I usually drown my sorrows in cheap beer like PBR. Cheaper than bourbon. Plus if you mix in a few boiled eggs and some sausage links, makes for good sound effects.

Many of us are right outa Hell or a high Water at this point. Foreclosure is not that bad.