Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

@1fox thanks for an unsolicited advice on how to live my life.

Being an attorney myself (wife works for Chevron) I am well aware of the general concepts you are proposing here. Given the Safe Harbor and DMCA frameworks it'd be pretty much impossible to shut down discussions here regardless of how you perceive moral integrity of judges and courts.

Again, given the level of your conviction, I welcome you to share with us a legal postulate that may be used to force layoffs.com to "Cease and Desist" (I am still not sure what activity they would be discontinuing as they are operating 100% within the legal bounds).

Look around this site and many others (Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, Tumblr, Blogger, etc.) and you'll see hundreds of places like this...

@1rwv, you ask "on what legal grounds"? Haven't you any sense that all it it takes is "judicial shopping" to get any judgement you seek in the US? We see it all the time, especially in the political world. One judge rules this and other court overturns that...

I think the OP is raising the plausible chance this is happening or can happen soon. As far as "Cease and Desist", it's a legal term. Look it up and learn what it means. That is the most probable legal route Chevron can take to block posting under the Chevron Corp banner.

When would you begin to create an awareness of this possible event, before it happens or after its too late? Your forward vision is non existent. Not a good way to live life.

@1zna and OP - enlighten me please, on what legal grounds would the court issue that Cease and Desist order?

Cease what? And desist what?

Talking? Ranting?

No attorney in their right mind would ever request this and no court would ever grant it. Check out Twitter for a moment and look for Ed Snowden's messages there - the gov does not like it, they have an arrest warrant issued for him, but they still have no legal grounds to take down his rants.

@1eaq, you are not dumb at all. Chevron is in fact trying to intervene in the publication of malicious and spurious information on this website. Though I think they have no legal stance on shutting down the site completely, they may possibly prevail on having only the "Chevron Corp" discussion board pulled. It is a bit tricky because of free speech rights, but they are angling for specific reasons that could give them that opportunity through a Cease and Desist court order. I think the OP realized this and has offered a proactive strategy to continue posting about Chevron Layoffs using an alternate company name on the same site.

I am all for free speech but do you guys actually think Chevron doesn't have a right to defend themselves against some of the nonsense that is posted here? If you owned a business and folks were going on a website and posting a bunch of rubbish would you actually turn the other cheek? I highly doubt it. Please feel free to tell me how dumb I am.

@1aes, I post from the Starbucks a block down the road from my Condo. I won't tell which one. That too is anonymous.

This is a hoax as there may never be legal grounds for bringing it down. You and I have every right to discuss, praise and criticize Chevron, in private or in public, as long as we do not advocate violence against property or individuals. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) has notable safe-harbor provisions which protect Internet service providers from the consequences of their users' actions - it covers sites such is layoffs.com as well as Facebooks and Twitters of the world.

That's why you can see a ton of criticism about goverment or business entities all around web, and as long as you do not threaten anyone you are in the clear. However, things get a bit more complicated when it comes to us, users. In our case, the company can go after us as we are 'users' and therefore not protected by DMCA (as opposed to 'service providers'). In a case where one of us is purposely trying do damage 'xyz' (xyz may include Chevron's reputation), the company can go and request from layoffs.com to disclose your personal information and they can sue you. Now, you have the right to fight it back, however, in that case, layoffs.com would have to contact you and tell you that your info will be shared unless you fight the subpoena.

Since nobody shares personal info here, layoffs.com will not be able to contact you to allow you to fight it back, therefore they are obliged to disclose your info info (in this case just an IP address you used to post) - you can go around this by posting via a proxy service which will assign you a non-traceable IP address (I suggest that you use a Russian or Chinese proxy as there is no way Chinese, Russian or Belarus courts will every allow a release of their IP addresses to US legal entities).

gotta love those Russians...they came to Syria's rescue too

The board is probably owned by someone in Russia, good luck with bringing it down

I couldn't have said it better, @qvr. I agree with you 100%.

So @- nzk, what kind of consequences do you propose for those exercising their right to free speech? Or is it just consequences for the free speech you disagree with? I favor having full information when making an investment decision and I appreciate the free and open discussions on this Discussion Board. I think big boys and girls are able to filter the information through critical examination. I also find it telling that most of the posters here are Chevron shareholders. Anything that negatively affects executive managements ability to spin the truth is a good thing for shareholders.

I heard from a reliable source who was present at the BOD meeting at 1400 in Houston last week, this website was brought up during side discussions, although not on the meeting agenda. Interesting. We are being noticed and is becoming a concern.

Screw Sr. Mgmt! They want to live like kings and screw over all the employees

@nzk: You are an outsider buddy. Just ask the test of us who are inside. Lots of truthful information on this board. No one can put a percentage - your intelligence can be the guide.

It takes 2-3 months and the crap posted on here becomes true.

I challenge your 90% claim. If we are allowed to make up statistics I would say 90% of the crap on here is crap. Just a bunch of 2 year olds posting rubbish with no consequence.

90% of the sh-- posted on here is true. It is driving Chevron nuts! Exxon has one post a month lol.

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. - George S. Patton