Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

I recently quit before one year with $30-$40k in relo and signing bonus at stake. The company isn't going to want people who don't want to be there, so I said I was unhappy and would resign if provided with a signed letter that there would be no repayment. They agreed, and I am out of a terrible job. Good luck to others. One tip - if you have another job lined up don't tell the company.

It's in the relo agreement that you have to stay with the company for a year or you have to pay it back. Same with any tuition payments, although I think that's a 2 year period. Training is not something they can ask for... that's the cost of business.

They wouldn’t hesitate for one second to f you. Be smart. Develop a plan and f them before they f you.

@1tnv that's brutal. I can totally see UP doing that. Anyone considering working for UP needs to come to this thread and read every comment.

My advice to anyone considering working for UP: don't.

If you are 9 months in they will not come after you for the money. If you are 9 months are less they will sue you and IF they are awarded judgement against you they can garnishe wages or bank accout but they will have to get an ordee to do so.

I know a guy who took a relo, they then made his life the hell we know they can make, he quit and they sued him.

Have you ever known UP to do that @1qvu? The typical relocation package for a newly hired manager is likely of a lower monetary value than the legal expenses involved in recouping the moving costs. There is also the potential for counter litigation. Has UP ever been known to involve itself in something like that? One would think that the UP legal team had better things to do, considering that UP is constantly being sued, but I wouldn't put it past them to go after some fed-up OMT who quit their job because they got tired of working 12-14 hour days for 30 days at a time.

Of course an employer doesn't just agree to garnish your wages for your former employer. They comply if legally told to do so. It is a legal process a judge orders because of a substantial debt. Yes, UP would have to take you to court for the debt of the moving expenses. During the process they would find out your current work situation.

This should be renamed the "I Heard" page.

@1cdb

Absolutely not. What company would agree to garnish wages for another company? Unless you agree to it. They could sue you for the costs in court though

@eve is that even legal? Can UP actually investigate to find out where a former manager is working and have their wages garnished? It sounds like something they would actually try to do, but it also seems that the cooperation of the new employer, banks, etc. would all be required. If UP were to try this it would probably open them up to serious litigation.

Someone below asked about the possible repercussions of ghosting. I think this makes the case for doing so.

To answer the question below, UP could file paperwork to have your wages garnished at your next employer to recoup moving expenses. Have I ever known this to happen to anyone? No. I only heard it as a threat made to new managers by a regional VP. How realistic that is you tell me. I personally think managers would have a legal case if UP tried to recoup the moving package considering how they end up requiring people to work 30 days in a row after another manager quits or takes stress leave. When you agreed to the moving package it wasn’t based on working the shift of 4 people because UP layed a bunch of people off or people quit and weren’t replaced.

That is true about the tuition assistance but it’s actually two years after you take a class on that. But come on the max they’ll even give is like $4500 a year. And actually I know some people that quit and didn’t pay back the tuition assistance.

The training piece is probably tuition assistance... that you have to pay back if you leave before the required period has expired

What happens when the manager who is quitting just "ghosts" after dropping all UP property off? If they were to do this after getting their last paycheck what is UP going to do? Sue them? Call the police? I don't see how UP can force anyone to repay the relocation or anything else.

Hell no they can’t have you repay back training expenses. If that were the case then UP would owe me money for the time they wasted with their b.s. classes and nonsense taught by contractors in Omaha that aren’t even UP employees teaching soft skills that you’ll never get a chance to use at a company like UP. I knew less after I attended those classes than when I started so UP was in the red and in my debt.

As for moving package, yep. You knew that when you took it. It s—s I know. It’s a dirty little secret about UP. They basically have little one year military enlistments with new managers. Sure you can quit before that but you’d have to pay back moving expenses to include any potential closing costs on new house you bought or profits from the sale of your old house etc because they pay the realtor fee etc. When all is said and done you can be looking close to six figures for the while moving package which is why most people s— it up for a year and then quit.

I feel most of the people on this website are agreement employees and we forget that non agreement are losing their jobs also. Although I dont have any loved lost for some of the d–k head managers getting sacked there are people that this was their dream job when they hired on then psr screwed them as much as anyone else. I would divide it by twelve since they say you have to pay it back within a year, but you are screwed if you signed an agreement.

Did you sign an agreement? If you did your phuucked!