11BHkNEw-2dqx
This is true, employees barely register.
Our wages are a spec of dust compared to the amount of cash this company has and that's a fact.
General Motors isn't poor by any stretch and all of the mass layoffs and firings we're completely unnecessary. I think GM's corporate accounts should be thoroughly investigated and Barra
15 replies (most recent on top)
@2ntz The contract/agency are only allowed to work 40 hours. The actual salary workers are putting in 50+ hours a week to keep teams' head above water. They do their 40 at the office, then another 10-20 at home.
11BHkNEw-1otu
All true, I went from GM to unfortunately Ford puke.
Lots of Indians work there, also being salary is like being contract employee, you never know when you'll get let go.
It's very sad.
Ford is a miserable miserable place, I'm trying to find better employment and man I'd rather come back to GM than be at Ford and that's saying allot. I am glad I have work though, so that's a blessing. But I will fight for better
Stop falling for the propaganda. Weak minds will always be taken advantage of. Just because you are salary, hold multiple degrees, etc, go learn something useful.
The employee wage accounts for less than 3% on average of a vehicle construct. While you cheerleader against the union, they aren't your enemy. They hardly register, just like you.
I want to sell a 10 million dollar bridge. Are you niavely my buyer? I can't tell if your intellectually aware, that you can so easily fall for nonsense.
Go learn something, and stop with the feels. Facts trump feelings.
There's no place for UAW in these times. It puts the Detroit 3 at a serious disadvantage. With threats from Tesla, Google and other startups, not to mention that the Japanese are already dominating the market, all without UAW's harrassment, the Detroit 3 should bundle together and just get rid of the UAW once and for all. You can't let a mafia, and that's what they are, run over your business and ruin what could be profitable. UAW will end American labor in the automotive market. I'd say, start automating things and save yourself the headaches.
I asked an expert about the topic of feudalism back in 2008, and how we were moving closer back to that world. It would eventually lead to a class of haves, and have nots, those that serve others, and he agreed completely.
There are a number of those that are claiming it's time to replace the unions, and I'm not on that boat. But before you cheer to replace, consider the limitations of your own position.
What came as more alarming to me, was after speaking with some acquaintance GM managers. They stated that in time, the salaried individuals are the ones that should be worried. What they were seeing is that overseas competition wasn't what they had to worry about. It was that competition was migrating here to the states and hiring in. You may laugh now, but I saw and heard it first hand. Our group brought in about a dozen. Don't be so arrogant like those who came before once were. EVERYONE is expendable. And when you find yourself on the receiving end in time, you will then have achieved enlightenment.
^This guy Nailed it; especially his observation of feudalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
I have to admit,
growing up reading about King Arthur and the KNIGHT of the Round table... sure sounded Romantic....
but Not so great for the PEASANTS & destitute who slept in the streets.
In this country, the Middle Class is being deconstructed.
We will eventual return to TWO:
Elite Class.
Servant Class.
And i got news for you,
If you are driving strangers around in your own car,
or doordashing for their meals,
or grocery-shopping for their food,
or standing in lines for their next iPhones...
then You are ALREADY in the SERVANT class.
~booby
If it was easy or even possible to replace line workers with robots then it already would have been done.
UAW workers fight for their jobs, GM salaried employees kiss their above for their jobs. I respect UAW workers. GM leaders said that GM can save $2 billion each year through layoff 15000 people, will it happen? GM leaders said that they will launch EVs every six month until 2020, will it happen? GM leaders said that they will start autonomous driving service at the end of 2019, will it happen? Don’t trust them, they are liars. They are stupid to k–l their capabilities in Detroit through a mass layoff, and trust a liar contractor - Cruise Automation which has hired about 1200 for autonomous driving. The number of employees in Cruise is more than any single company which is doing autonomous driving. You can imagine next wave of layoff in GM will happen within 5 years as their direction in autonomous driving is totally wrong.
Technology is forcing changes. It’s helped by people’s desire for convenience. For example, shopping at amazon vs a a real store. Amazon costs less—because it uses a lot fewer people.
We were born in the middle or toward the end of a marvelous era (for the US), the 20th century. ELECTRICITY, and the products and technologies it spawned, such as mass production (led to automobile in particular and affordable goods like cameras, furniture, appliances), radio, lighting etc led to huge increases in our standard of living. Also computers, aircraft and more (side note—it also contributed to women’s equality, by making physical strength less important and intelligence more important)
Now technology, specifically computers, are taking us back to the future.
Right here, in America, as late as 1880, the top occupation was...farming. And what was next? Servants. People to clean, cook, and garden for the wealthy.
Now, as you point out, more jobs are automated.
If autonomous trucks catch on, look for truck drivers to lose their jobs
Some have pointed out the need for a guaranteed income due to these trends. The money to pay for that must come from somewhere. Most people will not voluntarily give it up.
The very powerful and/or wealthy set the rules indirectly by controlling the political, directly and indirectly. So the money will come from the middle and upper middle class.
They will have a lot less, so the displaced, poor, and ignorant and lazy can have something.
So it will be back to the future, where a few are in charge, like the dukes and earls of the Middle Ages, and the rest of us are their servants, or their dependents, or in re-education camps.
Not a happy vision, sorry.
@zri Two thumbs up. I've been saying something similar for years. Most companies are looking to automate and use robots and get rid of their human workforce. It's been speeding up in the past decade because, you know, profits over people.
What happens when 10, 15, 25% or more of the workforce is displaced by automation? Not everyone can be a technician to fix the machines. Who will be able to afford to purchase anything? Purchasing power goes down for a household and costs will go up to maintain profit level. And government assistance goes up.
They are already doing just that. 11 grand buys the ability to pick those lazy UAW workers off one by one over the next 4 years. No one is talking about Oshawa or Lordstown anymore.
My question is who is going to buy cars? If everything is automated, engineering, assembly, cashier's, truck drivers, trains, planes, air traffic control, all restaurants self serve, farming, then what? Guess you apply for government assistance. Lol. Maybe nobody really works. If your house is paid off you show up to the food pantry each week for free meals. Take bus or ride ur bike or scooter. Lol
Nope no a troll,
It's coming more and more, walk into a plant. Engine plants are already mostly automated.
I have heard of stories many degreed professionals and line workers alike can't find work, some have taken low paying jobs just to work. The UAWs haven't really won anything except a little more time working on a factory floor, eventually it will come to an end, nothing in this world is permanent and that includes manufacturing practices.
GM is in the process of inventing a better mouse trap and when they do or Wich ever auto company does, it's over for the line worker. Nice assumption on the Walmart job, sometimes people like you just love not facing up to reality but hey it's your world too! Assume what you like😊
Says the troll who is probably working at Walmart unloading trucks for minimum wage.