Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

This classic totally represents Oracle. I heard more bad news for them on the radio and I laughed. Company is run by monsters. So glad I left that sckhole.

So many gems worth remembering for your own sake.

Whoever still do not understand ORCL doormat principle will suffer in future.

I’m an investor in progressive. Yes, the one with Flo. I never read their investor relations comments during earnings. I did today. It just made me realize some things. One, Oracle doesn’t care about people. Two, mgmt are usually two faced back stabbers. Three, there are solid companies that do well and cwre about people. Oracle could learn so much.

In fact, we hire less than 3% of people who apply for jobs at Progressive. This scale advantage allows us to bring additive skills and experiences to our team, ensuring that we’re always growing and always evolving. Our culture is built on the foundation of our core values, and it has evolved beautifully with our people growth over several years. A transparent, inclusive, and forward thinking environment ensures our people feel empowered, welcomed, valued, and respected. A development focus allows our people to build careers and become talented business leaders who can drive enduring success for decades to come.

I feel the same story after today's layoff.

Whoever this saint who asked AI about working Oracle is, your sir or ma'am.....made my day. I didn't even need a pick-me-up, but I come here for comedy any more....and that is an epic takedown....by a robot no less. Absolutely awesome! Thank you!!

I just asked llama3.3 about Oracle. Even AI knows why not to work at Oracle

• Poor work-life balance
• Limited career growth opportunities
• Low job security
• Toxic company culture
• Outdated technology and processes
• Poor management

I save this thread just to come back here and there cause I know someone will have gone through the same thing, experience the same hate for Oracle people who dump on them or just realizing how much time and energy they wasted at Oracle. To this day, not even the people I left behind at Oracle even say they have any pride in what they do, enjoy it, etc. I guess I am just built different. I also couldn't wake up every day realizing I am doing the work a high schooler could handle. It always amazed me how many of the men at Oracle acted like high schoolers. Back-stabbing, talking behind backs, telling on people. The women in mgmt in my area, total discrimination against anyone they wanted. If they wanted one of their friends doing the work, he or she got the work. It didn't make sense then but today I am like, you are clueless. How do you think any group grows and develops. People are right though, it def happens at other tech shops. If I had to do it over again, I would've just picked better role models. Just probably would've asked, "hey, what do you do? what are you good at? what can you teach me?" The fake it to make it mantra in some areas in Oracle is probably a sign written on thresholds of people's houses. A ton of unskilled people who never knew they had it so good. They would be custodians at most other tech companies. My Oracle time is a cautionary tale in trusting people, but also making choices much sooner to recognize HUGE red flags of people. Shame on me for thinking some adults could be honest, smart, good people. I guess what it comes down to is that regardless of industry or company, some people just lack morals, trust, good intentions, or are just horrible humans. I think someone said it on here before.....to imagine these humans also have children is scary.....I definitely would do it all different if I had to. I mean, if same people in place.....never step foot into that oracle office. I am better off as a human being for having gone through it. I knew it then as I do it now, I am just a better human being and I am a stronger person for having gone through such a horrible experience. The best part about many who are still there.....they will have spent lifetimes at Oracle....and when gone and gone forever.....no one will care what they did or where they worked. You don't put your resume on a tombstone.

Moral of the story - DO NOT stay long at ORCL

Seems applicable to most companies these days.

Hard working common people are being misused, sc--wed, taxed, axed with no caring who we vote for. Welcome to modern slavery.

How down will they go before uprising of the common happens?

If you are stuck...

Use the time to learn relevant skills. If they fire you, you get good compensation and a new job with better pay. Better to start this strategy immediately after layoffs as you would have more time before the next layoff.

Another strategy is provide 3x the estimate of your work. Most of the managers don't know how to estimate the work. They will simply fake it so you argue with better and stronger reason.

Even if you plan not to leave, you'll enjoy your time.

I am a younger worker and I know very well now that "Loyalty No Longer Pays"

In a profit-driven corporate landscape, younger workers are wise, over 400,000 layoffs in the tech industry within just two years bares it all.

Tech workers have become mere commodities, just expensive numbers on a balance sheet.

Do not get stuck with outdated skills and technologies that no longer hold value in the outside world. Realize the stagnation, obsolescence and ultimately, a bitter exit.

Don't wait until it's too late. Take control of your future. Diversify your skills, build a versatile portfolio and stay adaptable.

Corporate greed is ki-ling us all.

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SEC-man-guy is capable of sending emails. Who'd of thought?

This is epic. Oracle mgmt are trash. The mgt I had in my GBU are hated by everyone who ever worked for them and who works for them. Some horrible people. The funniest part of it is that they're not even "technical". Most were very much novice at all tech. Most never worked hard. Most just reaped the benefits earned off other people's backs. I know some day the other shoe will drop on all of them. They will retire and have no one to say "remember when we stole so and so's work and used it as our own" Total trash raising trash families. Well for those that had kids....they mold right after themselves.

Post from TheLayoff.com

Can't trust any companies these days. Valuable advise for rest of life.

this thread is epic, worth reading it all for an employee in any corporation.

Sad story that happened to many @ ORCL, a company not worth working for

Corporate greed at its best at ORCL

That's the problem with Oracle Managers. They are not fit to be managers. You are supposed to bring the best out of IC's not su-k their blood for your advantage.

Yes as a Manager, I really do not like IC's who can't get the Job done with high quality. Many ICs at ORCL are of very poor quality.

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SEC man-guy has regressed! Back to the original spiel about the one he says is going to jail!

At least you were honest.

Some promoted are sc-m that steal employees work to get promoted threaten others to do things that they would not do … but will get fired if they do as told… being promoted to a position of responsibility so they can take more from Oracle harming many … totally degrades others. Controlling and abusive yet.., doesn’t have the skill set or understanding and too lazy to read regs…

Employees are just pigeons on a wall to be fired so the salary difference in budget is pocketed. Uses exoense account for personal use..buying others to control… sick behavior…
The interesting part is there is a trail to eveything and it’s not going to hard to be convicted.

It’s better to be honest and hard working that to lie steal & cheat and end up in prison for 10-12 years.

Something good will come for you.

Yup that's how ORCL works

These are valuable lessons for most corporations.

Exploitation is a choice ....

It's the only way in CX

Exploitation is a choice ....

and it is closely related to The Oracle Doormat Principle although the latter also includes employee degradation

ORCL wants you to fail in life and career

• employee performance review = c r a p, they do not know how to rate, if you are in good terms you are good even if you do not do anything. hard work and loyalty are now for foolish.

• ranking = not everyone can get top rank, so even if you work hard, help other etc good things, your ranking will still be decided based on some nonsense understanding of your work by your manager, who himself is a piece of s h i t. So all the good qualities will not make you higher rank, a-s licking will

• no financial incentive = even if your rank is high, incentives/pay raise will not beat the inflation

• highly productive = highly foolish is how you are treated at ORCL. Any good behavior does not pay you well

• lack of stability = so whatever you do, you may be laid off anytime. if not you will be poorer each year

• promotions = useless titles without real gain

What is your experience?

You are not alone. Many has similar story at Oracle and trust me all of them are doing far better they could have done in the same amount of time in Oracle.

Moral of the story - DO NOT stay long at ORCL

Isn't it time to do the opposite, so hard working people keep growing rather than working for blood su-kers?

Exploitation is a choice ....

Isn't this CHOICE leveraged these days by most of the companies?

Capitalism does not automatically mean exploitation. Capitalism is simply the freedom to create your own enterprise and profit from it. Exploitation is a choice. Greedy people use capitalism as an excuse to use and manipulate others. They tell themselves, this is how it’s done, but they have a choice. There are capitalists who take care of their employees. LE is not one of them.

That' my dear is CAPITALISM which is based on exploitation.

Yes, At ORCL its managers who decides, ICs doesn't cut

He has such a low opinion of the people who work for him.

WOKE or DONKEY, You always choose, isn't it?

I have been laid like this for a cheaper resource.

I trained all these new people very well so I can take up more responsibility for all the experience I gained and all the new ideas I would like to implement for making product and process better.

Unfortunately, once the trained resources are good enough to replace me, I was RIF'd

I was in a very bad shape for quite a long time. I dedicated most years of my life at ORCL so did know any tech used outside making my skills useless to get even a call.

Being a single earner, I had to sell my house at a loss as I cannot afford it anymore, and it was very hard with kids and family, especially not having enough savings.

These advices here MUST MUST be followed wherever you work as no one cares about you in companies. Even so called team members you treat like family forgets you. For corporate world, it's all about making profit at the cost of peoples life.

Framed these in my heart. Thanks all for sharing all these advices

Thanks for sharing great lessons.

• extra work time almost everyday with no extra pay = taking advantage, manipulation, no respect, no work ethics
• Switch companies often = get good raise and promotion you deserve
• recruiter say too many job changes = manipulation tactics so you stick around longer, do not buy

Always be vigilant of being manipulated by different tactics. Be strong and resilient.

Loyalty only works one-way at Oracle.

You nailed it Its top down while good people suffer

Loyalty only works one-way at Oracle. The management expects unwavering loyalty from their employees. They do not return that loyalty in any way.

I would NEVER trust any of the sc-mbags I was working for no matter what they might try to do to help me. Most likely that “help” would be some kind of set up for something else. Let’s face it , the people I was working for are sc-m. They are not to be trusted in any way at any time.

This is where your hard work is being spent -
https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2022/06/12/billionaire-ellison-turning-hawaiis-lanai-into-playground-for-the-rich/