Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

Not surprised of Esurance phase out. The company has never turned a profit in its entire existence. The writing has been on the wall for a long time. You though Allstate was going to save it. They have a history of buying companies and making them complete failures.

They are all liars and sc-m. Company is that profitable and just f’g with people’s lives. I could understand if volume down etc but you are getting rid of employees that outperforms a majority of the siu division.

I don't believe that Allstate will ever bring everyone from Encompass/Esurance back into Allstate, this is the first step in getting rid of them. This transfer process gets them out of Allstate's network, they lose their Allstate credentials, return their Allstate computers, and get all NatGen stuff. They'll only keep them as long as they need to, then they'll be let go and they can be laid off from NatGen, not as Allstate employees, and thus likely won't be counted as "Allstate layoffs". Truly underhanded sneaky sh-t happening here.

Hope Allstate HR and legal still cruise this site. Esurance employees intentionally moved from Allstate to National General just as way to fire them all. Where is Eric Brandt in all of this. Move us to Allstate SIU. Then say moving us to National General as they can bring in our files into their claim system. Where did it change to we had jobs to we don’t have jobs and only told to us the other day. Imagine walking into your job, have your manager tell you we moved you to a new desk and new manager. You sit down and new manager says youre fired. WTFFFFF

If NatGen can absorb 30-55 claims a day just from ESU they obviously are either about to get slammed or have no work. We are justifying their jobs. Their referral rate of 9-10% of claims is obviously fudged as that would be impossible to handle with their investigators getting half the work as us. Where’s the “transformative growth” to keep the best of the best as someone earlier said. It’s just a way to finally get rid of Esurance employees.

But expect us to be professional till most of us are let go 😂 Good luck with that. You will get the same respect and loyalty back that you are giving to us. Basically little to none.

We’re we ever part of Allstate. Stand alone and excelled, then “part of Allstate” and never integrated over a year, then moved to NatGen and told no one is losing a job and if anything we need more employees, more managers. Now it looks like was excuse to just finally fire most.

Hilarious! They just had meeting last month saying how claim volume up, projected claims rising, policies rising and all this extra work. They said if anything they need to hire more people. That was clearly a lie back then. Somehow a month later most ESU not being kept. They know the answers and won’t share anything. A bunch of bs out of National General leader Bryan’s mouth. No wonder they kept him as he fits right in with the constant lying errr transparency they like to say. F him and this company.

The head of NatIonal General is horrible at lying. He obviously didn’t take his required training classes at Allstate yet. He needs to check the due date as I’m sure it’s overdue. All he is good at is saying is Great Quesrion and poorly dancing around it.

Regardless what experience NatGen has with acquisitions claim volume doesn’t disappear. It’s only increasing with the bottom of barrel of insureds they are writing. This sounds like Allstate finding a way to get rid of all Esurance employees regardless of them saying we are Allstate employees.

NatGen has history/experience with acquisitions and merging policies into its system. This will keep NatGen employees (somewhat) safe. Until Allstate is done acquiring all these insurance companies. Fact of the matter is...no one is really safe because claims will eventually be housed in Pune India.

Well to add to this convo... Esurance had field investigators taken away to save money for expenses as Allstate is mostly desk investigators. So NatGen somehow got approval for an exclusive field staff. How about get rid of the cars and fluff expenses and keep all the employees. Vendors are more cost effective than a field staff. The claim volume is crazy already and their field staff won’t have time to go out. Basically Allstate letting Natgen do what they want like they did Esurance years ago. Then the hammer will fall when they have to move to desk work, fire people because they can handle more work.

Did they even offer a severance or any talk about that? Or will they thanks and have a nice day lol

And they think when there’s an exodus of employees leaving… there’s only 50 siu investigators … already overworked… who is going to do all the work when more than half leave 😂 Youre in great hands my a55

When they said Esurance was going to Allstate you should have known bad things were going to happen, we had 6 Esurance employees come to my team and within 6 months there was only 1 left.

The answer for all the issues caused by Allstate in the IA world is more Allstate!

@wba NatGen leadership has not been around Allstate long enough to perfect their compulsive lying, non-transparent, shady, BSing skills. Tom and Glenn need to get with that NatGen leadership and get that all perfected before they start sounding even remotely coherent. If there is any area in the business world that has perfected the compulsive lying, conniving, and bullsh---ng of their customers, employees, and shareholders it is Allstate's senior leadership and home office.

Count my work product just enough to meets going forward. They don’t deserve my best.

What else is new… Esurance employee abuse over and over. First Allstate layoffs and take a test with everyone. Great we kept some of you. Now NatGen an Allstate company can just let Esurance go? Sounds fair… let’s compare Esurance employee statistics to theirs and let the cream rise to the top.

We were recently told with claim volume at Esurance alone, projected growth they can’t see in any way anyone losing a job. Then today basically you are fired, start looking and we can’t say how many is needed LOL. They know the damn numbers as they have been studying all the numbers. Yet refuse to tell anyone! Why? Because the almost unbearable workload is about to get a lot worse.

Today’s meeting was supposed to give info as quick as possible and was 30 minutes of great question but I can’t answer. At least Allstate’s horrible way of handling of layoffs was a million % better than today. NatGen leader is either clueless or a horrible liar or both. Sorry but this is a joke the way it’s handled.

Either NatGen people are way underworked what Esurance excelled at or they are about to get slammed with a ridiculous workload.

Encompass is being merged into NatGen already, now Esurance, yet they're all supposed to come out the other side as Allstate employees? It doesn't make any sense. Why would you start sending Encompass/Esurance NatGen computers and make them start using NatGen's system if your end goal was to bring ALL of them into Allstate's network. And not to mention the absolute security/access cluster fu-k this is creating with NatGen (and now Encompass/Esurance) staff using non-Allstate computers trying to access info on Allstate's network. Stellar leadership and planning.

The whole of claims is about to be enriched with Transformative Growth. A lot of claims leader meetings today with senior staffs. Hang on tight! Pune here we come!

Depending on your state never hurts to talk to a labor attorney. Probably useless but doesn’t hurt to find out if any recourses. Stay strong and best of luck to anyone affected.

I heard today SIU hit. I assume not claims or is that coming too? As said above how is NatGen not going through transformative growth to keep best of the best?

Why isn’t NatGen going through Transformative Growth? Sounds like they need Esurance work and volume to justify their jobs. Best of luck to anyone that survives this massacre. Sorry to hear that.