If the majority of impacted engineers are U.S. citizens and permanent residents, while H1B employees are retained and even promoted, doesn’t that look like discrimination? the kind of story that would catch the attention of the news and even the White House?
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@ha Much smarter. Less Corrupt.
I went into this hoping there might finally be an investigation into the way H1B visas are being handled in engineering, especially in the central and North east regions. What I found instead was something that feels like a scandal waiting to break.
The new director and his little circle in Central are frankly a laughing stock. To give you an example, one of them had a discrimination case on record against an African American colleague. That’s in writing with HR. Rather than facing any consequences, he’s still there, promoted no less, and the company kept sponsoring his visa. It’s outrageous. If that doesn’t tell you where the priorities lie, nothing will.
In places like New York and the North East, the situation is even worse. The culture on calls with some of these H1B lads is toxic. It’s chest beating, ego driven nonsense, and at times the language is downright abusive. It’s meant to intimidate, to belittle, and they get away with it because leadership either turns a blind eye or is complicit.
This is where I have to say enough is enough. It’s time for proper oversight { DHS, USCIS, ICE } someone needs to step in and sort this out. This isn’t about being anti immigrant; it’s about fairness and protecting jobs for qualified Americans who are being cast aside.
Middle management, too, needs to wake up. Stop being puppets for the lobbyists and the corrupt backroom deals. When redundancies come, and when job postings are quietly written for visa renewals, it’s obvious what’s going on. HR will trot out the same line: “we opened the position, but unfortunately couldn’t find any qualified US citizens or permanent residents.” Rubbish. Everyone can see it’s a charade.
The reality is painful: hardworking, capable Americans are sidelined so the company can keep its visa books tidy. Families go hungry while these games are played out. This isn’t just poor practice, it’s corrosive. It’s eroding trust in leadership, and it’s poisoning the culture of the company from the inside out.
Not all Americans are same and some of us realize the importance of immigration in keeping country’s economy and world standing. Let’s see how maintenance cost of everything goes up and with immigrants targeted and steep tariffs. Folks at bottom will have harder time but does anyone care anymore
In fourteen hundred ninety-two
Columbus sailed the ocean blue
His long journey
Across the sea
Searching for top talent
The ever so plentiful, H-1B
Do you know America was found by Columbus while he went in search of guess which country..you won’t know so Chat GPT that id--t
@150 I learned my work (one instance) was stolen when the dum--ss thief and fraud invited me to "his" demo of various tech solutions to upper management. Decided it wasn't worth my time and energy to call him out. Never again shared anything with him.
@w7 Not to mention extreme poverty and a brutal caste system.
And then they want to come here and lecture us on things America can do better.
Exactly. Just refuse to work with them.
I gotta say, I’m real impressed with this thread. I’m right there with the author and most of y’all’s comments. One more thing I’d throw in, these folks will take your work and ideas, slap their name on it, and act like it’s theirs. What’s even funnier, and frustrating too, is when they circle back later and pitch your own idea to you, swearin’ up and down they came up with it first.
I’ve been burned plenty of times, but it just felt silly to fight ‘em on it or even run to leadership sayin’ it was mine. Honestly, it’s pathetic. So I just quit sharin’ my thoughts with them altogether and work around ‘em like they don’t even exist. They stay in this constant “gotta prove myself” mode, and all that really shows is how little competence they’ve got.
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@yj unfortunately, the NEVER admit when they make a mistake. Talk about a bunch of PITAs. No one wants to work with them. They are simply tolerated.
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@ha India is a sh-t hole country. Over populated, polluted beyond belief and a majority of its citizens uneducated. So many Indians leave because there are no opportunities outside of answering phones on a call center.
America could roll over India in a heart beat if it didn’t mean losing bargain basement employees.
You don’t like the citizens of this country go somewhere else and see if it’s better. Guarantee where ever you would go , it wouldn’t be the toilet bowl country of India.
this is america d-mb d-mb. if you don't get no sales....you can't show some se-y hotie pretty gril in a marketing ad.......then....then.....WE DONT WANT YOU......WE DONT WANT YOU. you are a negative investment. learn it....america don't buy if there is an india thing in the comerical or in the store. We don't buy...we don't even walk into the store. good luck finding a new job bbbi t...ch..
@jt People have to get the idea out of their heads that there is some kind of utopia that can be achieved. Having the decision making authority outside of Germany and closer to where the employees and customers actually live would be a vast improvement.
Keep fighting while China unveils the first 6g, the first foldable phone, the first flying taxi and all latest technologies. Fighting unnecessarily and bullying the world seems to be the norm
First of all some of them visa folks don’t know proper English and they don’t even prepare coffee or get donuts to office. I am not complaining but it would be a nice gesture. It would be better if they acknowledge someone who works twice as much and is 10 times more productive
First of all where are you getting your facts from, all the colleagues from my group laid off in last round were H1Bs. It’s sad now most of them are placed in better positions in big tech companies close to doubling their salaries in some case
They don’t work on fields you id--t they work on technology medicine law and research and are highly educated and qualified. Are you really that dum--ss
Less assume we throw them as--s out will situation improve? Who will paint our houses and work on fields? You guys or your daddy at WH won’t do it for 50$ a day
@ha Smart enough to know how to Google 'IQ by Country' which clearly shows which country is #130: https://www.iq-international-test.com/en/test/IQ_by_country
Yes, it is obvious discrimination. Now how do you get the DT motherf----rS out of the company? That is where you should focus all of your efforts. If you can’t do that, nothing is going to change and it is probably going to get worse.
In my time at the company before I left a couple of years back Regional engineering team, I often encountered IndIs who engaged in gossip, rumor spreading, and finger pointing. It created a toxic environment where accountability was lacking and reputations were damaged unfairly. I did work with a few individuals who were collaborative and supportive, but overall, many interactions felt undermining and self serving. What frustrated me most was how quickly trust could be broken because of that, even within your team and management.
They would present themselves as friendly and supportive, then act against your interests when you let your guard down. My advice is to be cautious and vigilant in navigating such dynamics, don’t believe everything they tell you about others, be fair and draw your own judgement and conclusions about people, don’t let the gang influence your decisions. And if an indi is reading this thread, be aware that we know how you roll -ICU, take your deception and cunning somewhere else.
@ha this is comical…..don’t reply in anger to this troll 0% chance he or she is Indian. Just a d-mb comment to trigger people
You’re just jealous because you aren’t smart as Indians. Americans are considered to be the stupidest people across Europe and other countries. You wouldn’t know because you hardly step outside the US. Half of Americans don’t even have a passport. They don’t understand how the world operates.
doesn't mmatter what the ones do from india. they have no impact on revenue or sales. the contract company wants to control the work and make it up, even if it has no value. However, the work won't add sales revenue. Only adds expense. Just don't care about it. It will solve itself by reducing profit and increasing layoffs. just do nothing at all.
@bm you should read a little about slavery.
@OP White House!! You’re dreaming, they care about real jobs! Manufacturing , coal !! Jobs that everyone misses;! Who approved all the mergers that ki-led competition and jobs? White House MF please
Hey racists, STFU and get back to work.
Any guesses on how many more years until Indians begin complaining that Latin Americans (LAs) are taking their jobs for less cost and because many LAs work in the same time zones as many North American companies? My guess: 3 to 5 years years from now.
The White House? Trump isn’t going to save you. He never was.
America got along just fine without Elon, Sundar, and Satya. Corporations advocate for immigrants because they ignore labor laws and work for less. Also, China is only competitive because they steal technologies from the US. UNREAL!
TMO moving a majority of software dev to India, opening TMO offices and hiring developers FTE for 1/5 of the cost in the US. No H1B cost, lower salaries, no payroll taxes,etc……
@c9 America would have been long gone if not for immigrants it’s simple fact. Elon Musk, Sundar Pichai, Satya Nadella are all H1Bs
How is nation of 300M going to compete in tech with China? Any smart ideas or it’s all rolling on AI?
Explains all those Student Driver stickers in Frisco
The H1B system is legalized slavery. The H1B worker is told do your job or I will remove you from the United States and send you back home. So groups of them live in apartments together To minimize cost and enable them to send all their money back home. Meanwhile US citizens can't get a job.
H1Bs won't get laid off cause companies that sponsor H1B visa and their green card application spend about $30,000 on their applications. They want a return on their investment to the fullest. For every H1B worker they layoff, that's a loss of $30K. Now multiply that by the number of H1Bs in your company (including 3rd party H1B hires). At the end of the day, ITS A BIG CORRUPT SCAM and the American workers are the ones that get sc--wed. H1B "temporary" visa, should be called H1B "permanent" visa with a green card guaranteed for the extended permanent resident stay.
That's because our gov't works in the interest of big tech. You see, those big techs are the ones holding up the markets. You may not agree, but this is the reality. It's like, you whip my bottom and I will wipe yours. Us little guys fall for all the promises that a presidential candidate make and once he's in the white house, those that voted for him are forgotten. He only works for the rich and self interest. Another words, there is no use complaining cause it's a money making business for the rich who control the money flow as well as have the ears of the powerful. This is the ART OF THE DEAL! Make the rich even richer, so they can take that money to their grave.
Not just FTEs, bro, look at AMDOCS, E//, and Nokia… it’s gotten ridiculous with the majority of their workforce that supports TMO is H1B and overseas staff . This feels like modern-day exploitation. I don’t have anything against other nationalities, but it’s time to prioritize Americans first, and when there’s a genuine shortage, bring in temporary help until the gap is filled. I sympathize with you and fully agree with your point, start by getting rid of H1Bs and America should stand for Americans, regardless of race, religion, country of origin, or s-xual orientation.