Could someone validate this? What is the point of staying?
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SLS here. You were NSI this year, we don’t want you to quit so we have someone to NSI next year. Yes, you will be NSI next year then again the third year when you will be asked to leave. You have a few options: 1- take the PIP each time, then get fired, 2 - work your bu-t off and get PIP’d the next two years anyway, 3 - do nothing at work but look for another job, take your time to find the best job, you have two years so be selective, take a lot of sick days especially once you find a new job.
Maybe not what you want to hear, but is what you need to hear. Don’t worry, it’s not you, it’s the company.
@1ebs+1e6uxcZS
You’re right, but it’s no that simple because of the current interest rate. If the rate is reasonably flat, the best is to take the PIP and hang in for as long as you can.
If you’re already RE, the combination of low rate now/ definitely increasing rate in the near future means in Q1 2022 you get about 15% extra in your lump sum, as compared to 5% penalty per year. Besides, there’s a chance that if high inflation is here to stay, the rates might go up not by 1.5% but more. It’s a delicate balance between getting more from these crooks and working for them for free.
An RE trying to keep his job! Of course an RE is going to try to stick it out until 60. Between 55 and 60, my retirement lump sum will increase $14k for every month that I can stay employed due to reducing the 5% penalty per year for early retirement.
Even with 0% raise due to NSI, an extra $14k per month is worth working through the PIP.
Getting NSI when RE is not related to performance, just related to age discrimination. I know I will have a target on my back when I turn 55.
It was positive you passed, since you are not in an immediate crisis. Now you can spend your time looking for a job that best fits you and gives you the best opportunity to succeed. You have bought time to find the right job and not the first “job”
Having a low ranking at XOM will always keep you CL and pay low relative to peers.
You should probably leave on your own time for greener pastures. You can leave on your terms and without any perceived cloud.
Take some time to reflect if there is anything you should do different in your next job. While many competent people are unfairly PIPed few NSI victims are without flaws that should be at least partly addresses going into the future.
Forget this piece of cr-p company
Does not matter too much. The difference in getting a raise and not getting one is small.
Stop whining here. If you can find a better job in terms of pay or mental health, then do it. Otherwise, suck it up and stay on.
Per the Bloomberg leaked training document - “No increase for those judged to need significant improvement“
Fokker the only point of staying is because you cannot find a job elsewhere. Get it?
@vvh+1e6uxcZS yeah but they suck at their job
@uuh+1e6uxcZS
You mean you know somebody who’s RE, was put in NSI through faked ranking, somehow chose the PIP, passed and and is still doing their work trying to get a decent pension for all the good work they’ve done in their career?
Don’t worry, this will get to you soon, when your sponsor retires or falls out of favor. I hope it hits you sooner than later and I’d like to see tou squirm then.
Op, what’s your age? Are you NRE or RE?
I know someone like that who is RE and still trying to cling on to collect their salary. Too bad, that’s one case where the PIP isn’t doing enough.
So this is one of the reasons I left after passing the PIP. They told me I can work my way up but at the expense of minimal or no raises for the next 2 years. Plus I was not sure if I would get PIP again. The salary treatment considers your last 2 rankings. I was able to find another job at a competitor and get a 25% raise. I lucked out really. Unless your current salary is super high already and cannot be matched outside, then maybe you can stay. If not, just start shopping around. It took me 4 months. I started my search once I got NSI.
You were in their chopping block. You survivied and they have nothing of substance to remove you. So they are going to make you voluntarilty leave by not giving you a thing. Stay and they keep putting more work for you at the same salary. Win for them. Leave to find a better job. Win for them. Messed up system