Interested in hearing whether folks will resign in lieu of returning to office? I suspect RTO, in addition to the great collaboration, will be an attrition mechanism. Thoughts?
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@r3 a bunch of mediocre men are getting butthurt that they cant get promoted just for hanging around long enough anymore. But if you think white male priviledge is dead, go take a look at our CEO and the two layers below him. Nothing but incompetence. But hey, they have MBAs and they look the part! Who cares if theyre making us the next HBR case study about the folly of management by metrics! (Obviously not the board)
@115
100000% in agreement.
Just heard that remote workers in the Twin Cities have to RTO in September.
@OP
Absolutely correct RTO intended to spur resignation , but from DEI, Karen, lazy-people, freeloaders and socialist.
Senior leadership always seem SHOCKED at the results of the OHS survey if we trust them, then enact this policy of policing RTO which demonstrates that they don’t trust ME.
Separating the decision to force RTO to how they choose to enforce it by heavy handed monitoring telegraphs that they don’t TRUST me and they don’t believe that I will make the correct decisions. That’s more disappointing than being asked to be in person >4 days/wk
I have to say, I spent half my time at Medtronic FT on-site and half remote. There is no difference with the people who abuse the system (doing other things during work hours and besides their job). When I was on-site I saw people do it every day, now that I am remote at least I do not have to sit next to people who refuse to do their jobs. The problem is that the people need to be held responsible for their jobs and need to be trust worthy, location has nothing to do with the people who do not and will not put in the effort.
@f1 grow uo
Man, those people are the ones ruining hybrid work for the rest of us.
Today in our weekly group meeting, one team member (who joined on teams) came off mute and seemed shocked about the new RTO requirements. Apparently he missed the ex com email, Geoff’s townhall, the multiple times it was covered in our team meetings (he’s always mute/camera off) and the accompanying meeting notes my manager sends out weekly.
I think the RTO policy is flawed, but when you demonstrate you are so out of touch with a message that has been repeated in multiple meetings at multiple leadership levels the argument that ‘you work as effectively at home’ goes right out the window buddy.
@w4
Nope, nothing todo with culture war; strict disagreements between people who are honestly earning their paycheck and people who believes in Socialism.
All of this DEI and culture war nonsense is to keep us divided and distracted to the incompetence of our leadership.
@tt This has zero to do with DEI, etc. I am the last person who would ever support hiring someone based on a category instead of simply hiring the most qualified, best suited, for a job. That said, remote work opens up the talent pool to a significantly larger number of applicants that might not be near an office or able to move.
Remote work was pitched as a great thing and we were all applauded for how productive we were during Covid. People and technology adapted, times changed.
Now, suddenly those of us who HAVE been extremely productive working remotely are being told it isn't enough. I'm told that I will magically be MORE productive if I drive the hour to the office so I can take the exact same calls with colleagues located in every other US time zone or internationally.
Sure, there are people who abuse the privilege. If your roll is so insignificant that your lack of meaningful output is unnoticed, then maybe you're a prime candidate for cost savings.
You want to foster a sense of camaraderie between employees? Let your people grow together, have happy hours, team building events... give them a common enemy to dislike. (Hmmm)
Onboarding you say? What about the new hires, you ask? Sure, figure out a couple of days that work for your people and get everyone together. Maintain an "always open" group chat between everyone in your group so questions can always be asked. That isn't a RTO mandate, that's appropriate flexibility.
This isn't about productivity, it's about control. The zero flexibility policy makes that abundantly clear. Upper upper management doesn't trust managers to gage if their people are getting work done. They certainly don't trust individual contributors to behave like adults and deliver the work they're being paid to do.
Don't make this about something it isn't.
All of these DEI talk is just an excuse for the Anti-DEI incompetence.
Sounds like you are doing the silencing not these “DEI” folks you are talking about.
To the DEI enthusiasts and Karen's Police who seem more interested in silencing colleagues than doing actual work, listen up: your constant absence from the office is glaringly obvious. While you're busy deleting discussions and policing online boards, you're expected to be leading by example and contributing to the team.
Newsflash: remote work isn't a right, and your absence is noticed. If you're too busy virtue-signaling on social media to bother showing up to work, maybe it's time to reassess your priorities. The rest of us are here to get things done, not to indulge in endless debates about DEI buzzwords.
Here's the deal: either you get back to the office and start contributing meaningfully, or you ship out. We don't need DEI hires who are more interested in silencing others than doing actual work. If you can't handle the demands of office work, perhaps it's time to find another role that suits your... unique approach to productivity.
@q2 honestly trying to understand all the dei talk. I’m a woman. Does that automatically make me a dei hire? Does it matter that it was 25 years ago? What qualifies a hire to be not labeled as a dei hire? And then can we only hire people that fit that category?
@cb of course it’s not DIFFICULT, but it is UNNECESSARY
@cb Don't forget to change your depends.
The people that came before me used to burn witches at the stake over simple viruses and molds.
Quit, nope but look for other opportunities, yes.
But then the wise ones were already doing this!
@b0
Okay gramps
I think, all you have to do is this: (like the folks who came before you)- get up in the morning, get ready for work and go there. Not a difficult concept for most people….
@OP
Lazy bummer’s get your bouuttty back to office and show up to work - y’all FAT entitled people.
DEI is dead long live Meritocracy. Bye bye all KAREN.
The next step is going to make the office so miserable that it will make more people quit without having to pay them severance.
They want to fire you without paying severance