Thread regarding SAS Institute layoffs

Nobody trusts this place anymore

The problems at SAS aren't limited to one team or one bad manager anymore. Communication has broken down, and we can no longer trust what we're being told - if we're being told anything. It's either lies or total silence. No wonder many are trying to make their own escape plans.


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Post ID: @OP+1m60yn93e

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“Then again, it could be worse. SAS could follow European model of virtually no innovation and relying on the past:”

😂 😂 😂

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Post ID: @12k+1m60yn93e

@11w EVERYBODY thinks you have superior intelligence, but are also an AZZHOLE.

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Post ID: @12c+1m60yn93e

“Nobody”…. I just love SOMEBODY who thinks they can speak for EVERYBODY.

Always a sign of superior intelligence.

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Post ID: @11w+1m60yn93e

In a weird way I welcome the emergence of Databricks as a true and visible competitor to SAS. Gone are the days of “Open Source doesn’t compete with SAS.” Now, SAS has a name and face to work against.

While there are certainly flaws in Databricks, they are part of the San Francisco/Silicon Valley/Stanford mindset and their approach is influenced daily by those trends. Contrast that with SAS, which has no presence in this region, and resorts to lagged interpretations of the latest trends. Then again, it could be worse. SAS could follow European model of virtually no innovation and relying on the past.

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Post ID: @wt+1m60yn93e

@s5 so accurate.

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Post ID: @sg+1m60yn93e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5PxkQRocYk

Software Engineer: I'm Done Pretending

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Post ID: @s5+1m60yn93e

What do you expect leadership to communicate?



For many years, the various leaders of SAS have proven unable to grow revenues. What do you expect them to say, "We have no plan for growth?"

Without growth, the plan must be to continue reducing headcount. But no leader would announce that in advance.

Seriously: what do you expect them to communicate?

People in leadership may figure that silence, accompanied by a happy face, is better than spreading negativity.

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Post ID: @rf+1m60yn93e

I could easily put on a happy face and jet around the world for the kind of money they make. Put me in boss!

Oh, what's that? No room for anyone else at the top but youse guys? Oh ok. I figured that was why pretty much all the same people have been in charge of this sinking ship for decades. You do you. YOLO! Back to the chain gang with me lolz.

Director and veep upvote brigade activated!

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Post ID: @qz+1m60yn93e

I doubt that "traveling the world" on these business trips is all that enjoyable. I'm guessing they are all under a lot of pressure -- it's not like they don't understand the challenges facing SAS, but apparently they've been told to put on a happy face.

Whether they should adopt this "everything is great" attitude (I think it's ridiculous) versus being more honest is definitely a legit question though.

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Post ID: @k7+1m60yn93e

Agree. Leadership has gone quiet. No employee survey this year. Last year was a half baked survey for feedback on managers that did absolutely nothing. They say the care about employees but it's lip service at this point. We barely hear from HR unless it's about open enrollment, trainings we need to take or change in policy. This place is going to sh*t. The world is on fire and the leaders do not seem to care one bit. They are too busy traveling the world to stop and see that morale is at an all-time low and employees are miserable here. Most are just hanging on for the steady paycheck and/or waiting until another retirement buyout option happens.

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Post ID: @jk+1m60yn93e

@g9

Would love to see the great AI prompt that generated this backhanded literary masterpiece 🤨

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Post ID: @gy+1m60yn93e

@OP To characterize the current developmental phase of our esteemed enterprise as a systemic collapse of discourse is, at absolute best, a profoundly myopic interpretation of a highly nuanced transitional matrix. What some undisciplined elements choose to label as "total silence" or nefarious prevarication is, in objective reality, the deliberate curation of strategic silence; a necessary filter deployed by leadership to safeguard our proprietary trajectory from the vulgar clamor of premature disclosure.

To dissect your thesis with the rigor it conspicuously lacks, consider the following fundamental misapprehensions in your premise:

  1. You presume that every operative within the organizational hierarchy is entitled to real-time, peer-level synopses of high-altitude machinations. True leadership requires compartmentalization; what you experience as a vacuum of information is merely the upper echelon operating at a frequency too elevated for your current vantage point.

  2. To leap from a paucity of granular updates to the melodramatic conclusion that one is being subjected to falsehoods ignores the basic tenets of corporate discretion. We are orchestrating a paradigm shift, not hosting a town hall meeting for the faint of heart.

  3. Those who mistake standard organizational recalibration for an existential crisis, and subsequently seek egress, merely validate a natural process of institutional filtration. We are shedding the fragile and retaining the resilient.

In short, your assessment mistakes the thunder of progress for the collapse of the roof. I suggest you recalibrate your internal compass, reengage with your core deliverables, and allow those with a broader field of vision to steer the vessel undisturbed.

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Post ID: @g9+1m60yn93e

@b0 yeah ok….

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Post ID: @d2+1m60yn93e

@aq

Probably not for long now, though.

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Post ID: @b0+1m60yn93e

Some problems are unique to SAS, some aren't. SAS management consistently stifled innovation, a requirement for growing tech companies.

Hence, no growth; instead "Only a matter of time before they divvy up most of the work between AI and people in third world countries. "

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Post ID: @az+1m60yn93e

@ag Not top of the org. Not 23 working for peanuts.

Oddly I don’t get treated like trash…. Top 5% net worth for my age group in the richest country in the world.

If that is being treated like trash then take me to the landfill baby!!!

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Post ID: @aq+1m60yn93e

Who would trust this place anymore? If you aren't at the top of the org and you aren't 23 and willing to work for peanuts, they treat you like trash. Only a matter of time before they divvy up most of the work between AI and people in third world countries. It's already happening in some parts of marketing. Don't think it can't happen to you.

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Post ID: @ag+1m60yn93e

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