That's the sound of other tech companies and media outlets reacting to all the innovative juicy goodness shared during innovate in las vegas. ooooooh head-on ate scary hot wings and fascinated the plebes!
Now on to the next city (Singapore?) where dozens of HQ lackeys will travel, sleep and eat halfway around the world in the lap of luxury only to be the trees that fall in the forest but no one hears ... again.
So they ripped off "Hot Takes" or whatever that thing is on YouTube and used it in a big marketing conference? That's laughable. Sorry, but the SUGI folks are now in retirement homes. That folksy stuff isn't going to work these days.
Poland is the next stop on the innovate trainwreck. Chooochooo, all aboard for Innovateski! Pass the kielbasa haha
"pretty much what you would expect from a Marketing event”.
I worked in SAS R&D for 20 years. I saw the decline in our management (as our better managers left for better jobs) and the resulting decline in product quality. Increasingly, our managers weren’t making technical or business decisions, but political decisions.
When I started, you could have a good technical career at SAS. Later on, you had to accept that in a political environment, your work would not be of high quality. The last three products that I worked on failed.
SAS Innovate and other events have to happen. Products have to be marketed. But Marketing didn’t cause the problem, and Marketing can’t fix it.
Yes
I believe The Televangelist to be JP, also known as the folksy Friday email sender. Can those who coined the term please confirm?
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Who is the Televangelist?
@1vhc+1sdNeN7m Apologies, to clarify - there was a total of 1600 attendees (this does not include SAS employees). And I know that 500 SAS employees traveled to Vegas.
"And now we just push inauthentic marketing down attendees throats."
I work outside of SAS now and when my manager returned, he said something like, "pretty much what you would expect from a Marketing event".
1600 attendees + 500 employees is how I read it. 3.2 : 1
Those 5000 and 6000 numbers of attendees were in the past.
For this years event, did they present a hologram of JHG speaking using a likeness of him from 30 years ago?
'If I recall, it was 1600 attendees not including SAS employees. If you add in SAS employees, I believe it was 500. This reveals a pretty concerning ratio."
Are you saying there were 1600 attendees and only 500 were not employees, or 5000 attendees and 1600 were not employees?
@1ivw+1sdNeN7m Yes, I fondly remember those 5k-6k events. And now we just push inauthentic marketing down attendees throats. Sad.
Before they cut the users out of their own event - because yes SUGI used to be run by users for users - the event used to draw like 5000-6000 attendees every year. users are the heart and soul of the sas fan base. Not the executives who sign the checks for the license or whatever. when they cut the users out of the conference it didn't go over well and a lot of those people haven't come back to the event since. Most of them are probably retired by now.
@1yqw+1sdNeN7m If I recall, it was 1600 attendees not including SAS employees. If you add in SAS employees, I believe it was 500. This reveals a pretty concerning ratio.
It amazes me the number of people commenting on this forum, who don't even work at the company, just hoping for its downfall.
What was Innovate attendance this year?
only thing I ever see on LinkedIn is SAS people talking to other SAS people, SAS people liking other SAS people's posts etc.
“I’m not saying it was a rousing success or not. I haven’t the first clue.
My point is that you don’t have a clue either”
Yeah that sounds just like what the televangelist would say. Try reading the actual words and not what you want it to say.
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Sounds like something SAS management would say. The Televangelist comes to mind. Awesome sauce and all that.
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Your post brings back memories of Sales and Product people begging for customer white papers. Customer success stories were highly sought after for marketing.
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The Cheerleaders aren't showing up to this site nearly as often as they used to. Their ragged p-m poms are collecting dust.
I see very little buzz on LinkedIn other than from SAS or members of the SAS global leadership team.
Even my numerous connections who still work there seem to have lost interest in waving the SAS flag on social media...that's telling.
Did you ever work at SAS?
SAS places an inordinately high value on 3d-party reviews, external press, and social media "buzz". That's the reason they hold these events in the first place. No buzz is, literally, the "something horrible" of which you speak.
If a privately held tech company isn’t making top headline for media outlets it must mean something horrible.
don’t all private tech companies make news cycles after their conferences?
I’m not saying it was a rousing success or not. I haven’t the first clue.
My point is that you don’t have a clue either. Your post is ridiculous. But you be you.
I'll race you to the jet! lulz