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@crzhx+1hCIbhXy Why?
If someone is working in a toxic environment they will leave. Badge swipes have become an objective. People with good experience have fewer reasons to stay.
@OP. I never have an issue with most of my managers at Ford, and I don't believe these managers would throw a tantrum. Of the 5 managers I had at Ford, only one would be that stoopid, the only one I got into fights with, and he was promoted to LL5 before Covid-19. However, I can really picture some LL6s getting angry, just not in my area. Yes, I know I am lucky. 4 out of 5 LL6s were/are nice people.
@mdp+1hCIbhXy We cannot backfill either. Our team has lost half of its members (layoffs) in the last years, and management just like to add new requests. We asked our LL4 to hire more people and he said that's not possible. Just do more with less, he said, and some talk about reducing waste... full of sh!t
@mtp+1hCIbhXy Agree with you, except in the last sentence. You won't lose income. Nonetheless, my advice would be to give the 2 weeks notice at Ford the day before your next job starts. If you get walk out (and it is very possible that happens or you can say you'll go to a competitor), you get an extra 2 weeks pay. If you don't get walk out, then forget about Ford and focus on the new job. At Ford, you won't get an exit interview, no last minute training request or documentation update, and no one cares or expects you to work in those 2 weeks. So you'll get 2 more weeks of pay at Ford, while you work in your next position.
When I was in another department the manager there took it as a personal offense when someone resigned. I never understood that mentality. Years later I'm a manager myself. If someone wants to transfer out or if they resign I wish them well and get on with my business. If someone is unhappy in my group, I want to let them be unhappy somewhere else.
Interesting post considering the current environment.
Heard people have been quitting because of stress. Any negative boss reactions?
This is amazing! My boss exactly!
Yes!
Jimi Tjong at the PERDC center goes insane when people hand in there notice to quit. He threatens them and tells them they can’t tell their coworkers until the day after they quit.
So far 5 people have quit Ford because of him this year. Jimi is a terrible person who has been scamming the the company for years. His entire department is a scam. We promotes it as a world class R&D center but only do gas engine testing.
His department just got a terrible pulse survey result but HR does nothing. Someone complained about the $20,000 dollar video game/race car game he got but HR has done nothing. This video game has no paper tail or purchase order and he scammed it from a vendor on a larger purchase order.
This is proof Ford HR is corrupt.
As it turns out 18 months after leaving Ford I was interviewing people I had worked with at Ford. I had been promoted at my new job and was the hiring manager. I did not hire people I knew to be loafers, sh1tkickers, blame throwers or credit stealers. Which as it turned out was all but 1 of my ex-Ford colleagues. I hired the one good egg and passed on the rest. What was hilarious is that one of the interviewee’s had the nerve to contact my director and tell him he could do a better job than me. That went over well. LOL
Isn’t it odd how people get accustomed to a toxic workplace and think that it is normal?
You have to n-p toxic behavior in the bud.
People are people. How would you prevent that at the next workplace? You usually don't get to interview your future colleagues. And even if you did, what are you going to ask that would reveal this? lol. The truth is worker protection is really low in the US. And it shows. It also keeps you in the hamster wheel until you're dead. But bad mouthing and sht talking you can find anywhere in the world.
I worked for a guy who blocked my lateral moves for years. Each time I tried to leave his group he became incensed and would yell and scream and then bad mouth me to the team that wanted me. When I left Ford he became incensed and tried to force me to do crazy amounts of work in the last two weeks. He spent a lot of time trying to figure out who my future employer was (wonder why), when he couldn’t figure it out he became even more angry. I just kicked back and visited with coworkers for two weeks and ignored everything the fool had to say. Good riddance.
The interesting thing to me is how many of the ex-coworkers I had bent over backwards to help out partook in bad mouthing and blaming me for things when I was no longer at Ford. It is a small world. I took note and it informed hiring decisions years later.
Don’t worry about the boorish behaviors that may or may not occur when you resign. Do take note of the behaviors and remember who they really are. You do not want that behavior to enter your next workplace.
@nro
The reason I visit this site is because I AM an investor, and I don’t want to hear just the PR news. I sold my F holdings at $25, have been watching the drop to see if it might be worth getting back in. So far, no way.
It wasn’t at Ford, but when I was an a IT contractor, I told my boss I was leaving for a full time position at Ford. He yelled at me and threw me out of his office. Two weeks later as I was preparing to leave the job, he called me in and asked me to consider throwing some work their way if I was ever in a position at Ford to hire a consulting firm. I never looked back.
Id--t managers are not unique to Ford.
Too last poster, they will still pay you for the two weeks even if they walk you out and remove your access.
@OP. The moment you give your notice, you should be ready for anything, including to be escorted out of the building, or watching the manager's wrath. In the latter, you just walk out yourself of the building.
Because you know when it is going to happen, you should remove all your personal belongings from the office, save/delete all your personal files on the company's PC, exchange personal contact info with the coworkers you would like to keep in touch, BEFORE giving notice. Yes, I know this is basic common sense, but I have seen people expecting to work the next couple of weeks, and instead, being walked out of the office.
The good thing about working remotely is that you save yourself from a lot of those issues. You still need to deal with your PC being blocked (or your account disabled) and losing a couple of weeks of income.
As a manager at Ford I can understand this right now. Because we are blocked on backfills. If someone leaves, upper management says "You can't backfill and you have to keep delivering on time and at the same level of production". It is untenable. Something is going to give. If investors are reading this site, be aware that Ford will not be able to deliver on promises at this rate!
I saw it firsthand when a very good friend of mine turned in his 2 weeks' notice to only be walked out. But it was the way he was treated by his management when he left that bothered him. He would later go on to become a director at a defense contractor a few years ago. So, he did very well for himself. I remember telling his supervisor that it was very wrong to treat him the way they did. He was a great worker. You wish him luck and good fortune not curse him after he leaves. very sad.