Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Google Cloud beats Cloud Rivals for Deutche Bank Cloud deal. See article link below.

Deutche Bank is one of IBM's key financial industry customers. Things are not looking good for big cloud wins for IBM. And now this account will probably be in steady revenue decline.

If IBM is to have any success with the bigger Cloud power-user customers, IBM will, most likely, be chosen as a backup cloud. The other four competitors (AWS, Google, Azure, and Oracle) will probably dominate the Cloud business. To succeed as a major Cloud player, IBM must retain its biggest accounts as primary Cloud customers.

This loss to Google Cloud in one of their big customers is a major multiple alarm fire for the IBM Cloud Business. One has to wonder if IBM Cloud was even taken into serious consideration in this competitive bid.

https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/google-cloud-beats-rivals-wins-deal-with-troubled-deutsche-bank/2020/07/?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email

by Anonymous
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Comment! It's anonymous!

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Read this before you provide your uninformed opinion on Oracle Cloud. Who know's what will happen but Oracle Cloud may be one of the ultimate winners.

https://cloudwars.co/oracle/oracle-cloud-is-so-hot-lydia-leong-gartner-analyst/

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I believe IBM and Oracle have figured out what their niche is, and are restructuring their companies to get there. IBM = Enterprise (primarily mainframe fortune 1000). Oracle = Oracle SW very much like SAP

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Post ID: @5siy+15PznOxO

@lun Absolutely correct, that made me laugh too. The Big Three are clearly AWS, Azure and GCP, except in China where it's AWS, Azure and Alibaba.

(Aside: it's interesting how many IT markets settle into a Big Three followed distantly by a bunch of smaller providers who need to find a specialist niche in order to survive. The sooner both Oracle and IBM figure out what their niche is, the better off they will be.)

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Post ID: @5yat+15PznOxO

Who would choose IBM for cloud? You’d have to be an id–t.

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Post ID: @1jpa+15PznOxO

Yes, this is what IBM has never understood... sometimes you have to work without billing hundred of dollars per hour to get the business from a customer... especially, in the cloud space which is a subscription business. Moving a customer to your Cloud is an acquisition cost.

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I have been really fortunate to be part of this cloud war among the top three cloud providers (at other accounts).

I can tell you that IBM has ABSOLUTELY NO chance to compete with these guys.

For example, these vendors are known to pay off for the entire migration cost (in the range of hundred++ million dollars) and manage the delivery to move clients to their clouds. We are not even talking about the world class products, services and people they have to fight these intense battles.

And it gets worse (for IBM and other cloud providers) every day.

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @1teq+15PznOxO

Is OP an Oracle employee? I think this is the 4th or 5th post on here by the same poster who always lists Oracle in the same group as AWS, Azure, and GCP. Oracle's "cloud" is an even bigger joke than IBM's.

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Post ID: @lun+15PznOxO

We still have a large GTS SO contract with them. Shows the fallacy of the approach of allowing Services to up sell product.

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Post ID: @wff+15PznOxO

IBM not even in the run!!!

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