Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Phoebe looks behind the Ford curtain (but don’t tell anyone)

Ford treats salary horribly and expects them to be silent and rally to support management. Dream on.

Ford demands secrecy as it preps salaried workers for blue-collar jobs if UAW strikes
Phoebe Wall Howard
Detroit Free Press
Ford Motor Company is preparing white-collar workers to do blue-collar jobs in case of a UAW strike, according to internal company materials reviewed by the Free Press.

Over the past month, Ford has held meetings with salaried workers, including engineers, to explain that the company wants to protect the flow of parts to car dealers in support of customers. This means Ford is planning to take actions that include sending white-collar workers into parts warehouses to run forklifts, according to meeting attendees.

If operations are disrupted and factory production is shut down, Ford is planning to deploy salaried workers to 20 sites in 15 states with Ford parts depots.

Ford reports third-quarter earnings.
The automaker asked salaried workers to complete online surveys to rank their top three preferred sites in California, Oregon, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin, based on an audio recording made by a person attending one of the meetings and additional documentation obtained by the Free Press.

"We are working hard to reach a new deal. But, like we do for any scenario where customer service could be interrupted, we need to plan for the possibility of a UAW strike. Our customers and dealers are counting on us to ship parts so we can keep Ford vehicles on the road," a Ford manager said on the recording, who also told those in attendance that a script had been provided by labor affairs.

An engineer may be sent to work in a parts warehouse

"The continued operation of our Ford customer service depots will make the difference between first responders being able to respond to emergencies or not. Utility trucks being able to respond to power outages or not. Customers making it to work or not. And customers accessing health care or not. This is our core purpose for the company, giving people the freedom to move. That’s why we are preparing to supply dealer part orders in the event of a strike," the manager told salaried workers.

"If there is a labor disruption, certain salaried personnel will be assigned to PS&L (parts supply and logistics) depots instead of performing their normal duties of your current job," the manager said. "We’ve completed an extensive review of all the requirements for safety training, both online and material handling equipment. Your safety is a top priority. If you’re assigned a role within a depot you will be provided proper safety training for any job you perform and a medical evaluation will be required. Roles would include stock keeper, order picker or shipping and receiving. Some of these roles would involve either walking or driving a power material handling vehicle or driving a forklift. Anyone who must travel outside of their home city will have all travel and living expenses provided and allowed to travel home on the weekends."

Ford, General Motors and Stellantis are negotiating new four-year contracts with a Sept. 14 deadline at 11:59 p.m. GM sustained a 40-day national strike in 2019.

UAW strikers with Local 22 take to the streets outside of GM Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly Monday, Sept. 16, 2019.
All three automakers have said they plan to negotiate in good faith. UAW President Shawn Fain has been highly critical, especially of Stellantis. And Stellantis, maker of Jeep, Ram, Chrysler and Dodge, has pushed back.

Salaried workers who attended confidential meetings were told not to discuss the plans with any colleagues or family members. Ford told its employees that they would have to tell family and friends that they were traveling on business and not disclose any other detail.

"You're sworn to secrecy," salaried workers were told.

"We’re aiming to keep you close to home," the Ford manager told salaried workers. "You will still have the opportunity to identify your preference ... in case you have the interest to travel elsewhere during this time. These preferences will be accommodated wherever possible."

The manager said Ford hoped for no strike but the company would expect any strike to last several weeks or longer.

"During the strike, your daily work hours would be Monday through Friday, from approximately 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. local time. And that is subject to change based on the need," salaried workers were told. "Exemptions will be approved in limited circumstances. These include medical, religious, family care or significant legal or financial reasons."

The Free Press reviewed pages where Ford outlined the plan for salaried workers as well as job descriptions.

Order picker: Removing material from the shelf to fulfill dealer orders. Heavy parts are picked using forklifts and other powered equipment. Smaller parts are picked on carts while walking through the warehouse.
Stockkeeper: Restocking shelves during the picking operation using a stand-up forklift or by hand. Pre-sorting bin for efficient stock-keeping. Taking materials from staging lanes and placing it on the shelves.
Shipping and receiving: Removing material from a truck and staging for restocking. Ensuring orders are completed and preparing them for delivery (driving a forklift).
Some salaried workers expressed concern about safety, since hourly workers are trained to work in warehouses.

During the John Deere strike two years ago, a salaried worker filling in for a factory worker crashed a tractor, and Deere management concerned about “reputational risk” on social media, instructed employees that accident reports must not be shared with the public, according to a recording of one executive and a slide deck obtained by The Intercept.

John May, CEO of Deere, joined Ford's board of directors in 2021. The six-year Deere contract with the UAW, in the end, was characterized by both parties as successful.

Salaried workers were told the parts depot deployment plan is a contingency that Ford hopes is unnecessary.

In addition, Ford plant managers have told salaried workers that preparations are going on throughout Ford. Again and again, workers were told the meetings were confidential. Salaried workers were warned that they faced job dismissal as well as legal action from Ford if anyone discussed the content of the confidential meetings with anyone.

Ford also planned to conduct media training for its salaried workers in case they come in contact with reporters during a strike, according to company material reviewed by the Free Press.

In response to questions about meetings being held with salaried workers, and citation of internal materials reviewed by the Free Press, Ford spokeswoman Jessica Enoch told the Free Press on Thursday, “Like we would for any scenario where customer service could be interrupted, Ford is planning for the possibility of a work stoppage. Safety and customer service are top priorities for us.

“We have a responsibility to our customers and dealers to ship the parts that keep Ford vehicles on the road — especially to keep first responders and other essential services running,” she added.

Some salaried workers in the meetings said privately they didn't mind reassignment as long as they received their paychecks. Others said they didn't want to cross a picket line under any circumstances. They wondered if they would be taken to work by bus or through a back door, according to interviews with the Free Press.

Multiple people on the recording voiced concern about being captured in photos trying to cross a picket line.

The name "Chuck Browning" was cited during some meetings. He is the UAW liaison to Ford, and a vice president credited with working on successful strikes recently, according to audio reviewed by the Free Press.

Browning, who is the key union player in Ford talks, also heads the agricultural implements division of the UAW.
UAW members led a strike against farm equipment manufacturer Case New Holland for more than 260 days, ending with a contract in January for roughly 1,100 industrial workers in Wisconsin and Iowa.

UAW members struck John Deere for five weeks in 2021.
A Ford salaried worker told the Free Press, "I left my meeting and immediately Googled the name" Chuck Browning.

Ford Motor Co. has gone from beating union organizers bloody in the 1930s and being the last of the Big Three to recognize the UAW to earning a reputation as the most labor-friendly carmaker in Detroit during the 2019 contract negotiations.

The labor union and automaker reached a tentative agreement on its last contract after only three days of discussing economic issues — after the UAW completed a 40-day strike against GM.

Automakers must prepare for the worst while, at the same time, assuring Wall Street analysts that everything will be fine. The issue of a potential strike has come up consistently during earnings reports and forecasts.

So now is the time for companies to stockpile parts and vehicles in case of factory shutdowns, said industry analyst Sam Fiorani, vice president of global vehicle forecasting at AutoForecast Solutions.

While Ford and others may try and prepare for shutdowns, they can't send everybody out to parts depots or staff assembly plants. But the parts depot plan is notable, he said.

"It's a Band-Aid they can put on, whereas there are not enough resources to keep a plant operating around strikers," Fiorani said. "This is the little bit Ford can do."

He said, "The UAW leadership has already declared war on these manufacturers. Where the manufacturers and the unions have always gone in expecting the best from each other, and pushing each other to get what each side needs, this negotiation doesn't seem to be going down that path. This is the most contentious one I've seen in my professional life, in 30 years."

The new UAW leadership has positioned itself as the "aggressor" in a way that seems to block a path to rapid resolution, Fiorani said.

Preparing contingency plans is usually praised by Wall Street, he said. "But it doesn't seem like Ford is setting this up for the stock market to appreciate it. The covert nature of it it, the problem with setting it up that way, is the white-collar workers look like scabs."

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Can't wait for these people to tell their boss they're not going to do the job they're ordered to do. Bye bye.

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Post ID: @6yib+1o9NSucg

I don't see any way salary people working in parts depots helps anything if there is a strike. Just another psyop by Bill, Klaus, Barry, and the WEF?

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Post ID: @5fun+1o9NSucg

Engineer here. I told my director that I’m not filling any UAW jobs, this is Ford Management’s problem. I went to college and studied hard so that I didn’t have to perform blue collar work and I’m sure as he-l not going to bend to this crazy idea now!

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Post ID: @5ncy+1o9NSucg

Ford salary here informed we need to start to be trained on parts shipping. I told them I am not a scab and declined. I said find Jimmy Car Car and jim baubick (the parrot of lean and gemba) to do it.

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Post ID: @3kyg+1o9NSucg

After you have been Ford salaried for awhile you will find there are many things you can’t un-hear and can’t un-learn. The more meetings you have with Ford leaders the number of things you wish you didn’t know will stack up.
Some salaried stick their heads in the sand, others join the blame game parade, some self medicate, some just collect a paycheck for as little effort as possible. It is so sad to watch the bright and shines new hires go thru the inevitable disillusionment process.

Let’s just say that most vehicle quality issues originate at the salaried leadership level. At this level a whole lot of overriding and squashing engineering recommendations goes on, followed by blame shifting to convenient scapegoats when their leadership decisions have negative consequences. These same leaders blow smoke up new hires arses telling them they are the savior and future of Ford, full well knowing the new hires have a 5 year shelf life.

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Post ID: @2nsh+1o9NSucg

@2ffw...i am salary...are you so gullible and ignorant that you believe anything ford management says and follow their marching orders?

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Post ID: @2okv+1o9NSucg

@1wpp...I think you are talking about A-piller trim flying off. This is not a manufacturing build issue. I am salary and have an explorer which has windshields replaced and the A-pillar trim cannot be reinstalled properly even with replacing the attachment bracket and push pin fasteners. Bad design. I am still waiting for ford to acknowledge this defect.

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Post ID: @2ffw+1o9NSucg

Well you can really tell who the union members are on here lol

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Post ID: @1lxg+1o9NSucg

@1asp, 1uu

Maybe you should go through the list of Explorer recalls. quite a few due to improper assembly at plants. https://www.ford.com/support/recalls-details/explorer/2020/

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Post ID: @1kpq+1o9NSucg

If I recall (excuse the pun), didnt we have windshields flying out of vehicles recently due to Ford manufacturing?

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Post ID: @1wpp+1o9NSucg

@1asp agree very few of the recalls are due to assembly. Now there are some individual lemons that come from a select few plant workers who for whatever reason dropped the ball.
The Ford written software sux ba--s and has caused recalls, both the software in the auto and software involved outside of the vehicle. Design software, parts ordering and validation etc.
Yes supplier parts cause a lot of recalls, however, Ford salaried signed off on part design and often insisted on cheaper fabrications and lifespans than the suppliers recommended. So Ford salaried and execs are culpable not the UAW.

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Post ID: @1uul+1o9NSucg

@1ztf+1o9NSucg No chance you work at Ford, much less anywhere near quality, PD or service. The recalls are mostly from suppliers and(not or) software. A dash of poor/rushed engineering on the powertrain side (driven by ridiculous margin goals).

I can't think of one off the top of my head that was due to improper final assembly, or stamping. Certainly won't fond a large popularion/expensive recall that's due to it.

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Post ID: @1asp+1o9NSucg

@1ztf+1o9NSucg there may have been union corruption, but do you think the execs are angels? they rebuilt dearborn outside mexico city. what could be worse for michigan? guess who's not going to get those jobs? US citizens, the same US that has protected this land so companies like Ford could thrive.

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Post ID: @1nng+1o9NSucg

I’m salary and I fully support the UAW union employees 100% and will not cross the strike line when it happens. I hope the UAW members get everything that they are demanding. They deserve it. Fxxx Ford First!
JSNTRTO#2

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Post ID: @1fcg+1o9NSucg

I'm ford salary in solidarity with my uaw brothers. Ford salary need to understand that the wage and benefit structure that the uaw secure does benefit salary workers. I will not cross the picket line. Any ford salary that does is a scab and should be ridiculed as such.

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Post ID: @1odb+1o9NSucg

Crimeate change is a hot racket right now... literally and figuratively hot.

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Post ID: @1dnv+1o9NSucg

UAW is a relic, it is Racketeering organization. Recently UAW leaders were busted for corruption. UAW was and still is a Mob organization, remember Jimmy Hoffa. District Attorney should ues RICO act to go after UAW and get rid of for ever. UAW is the cancer that destroyed American Motors and Chrysler. And now they want GM and Ford to bite the dust.
Just family members are allowed to apply. No accountability. 100% of the recent recalls are due to UAW lack of discipline in training and monitoring quality. Toyota BIC do not have Union nor BMW, Mercedes, Tesla, Audi, VW, Hyundai, etc. all of them with better Q than Ford do not have Union.

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Post ID: @1ztf+1o9NSucg

Chuck Browning is something I learned at culinary school, but I digress.

I hope I get to install some brackets and do some dirty jobs south side style (you know what I'm talking bout Barry and Big Mike!) at Chicago Asy when the UAW goes on strikes

What will be great is that if enginerds are assembling the cars then the UAW can say the engineers designed it wrong AND they assembled it wrong... won't that be awesome?

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Post ID: @1zup+1o9NSucg

@rhk+1o9NSucg. Thanks for the clueless post. While Ford may be transforming into a data/subscription revenue stream, we don't make squat from it now. Without the revenue from F150s, there is no transformation, there is no software development, there is no Ford. And guess who assembles the F150. For now, the UAW definitely still holds a few keys to the company's future.

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Post ID: @1ujh+1o9NSucg

Ford being Ford the non-contributing FnF types will not be selected for UAW replacements as they are too special and their management friends won’t want to burden them with travel, time away from family and e-gads actually having to do work that is “beneath them”

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Post ID: @1fak+1o9NSucg

So my sister in law asked at the dinner table “Who will do the salaried workers jobs when they are doing the UAW jobs?” The 3 salaried Ford employees at the dinner table all burst into laughter. She asked “What’s so funny?” My brother (salaried employee) explains that the majority of the salaried employees are on the friends and family plan and literally do nothing productive.

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Post ID: @efp+1o9NSucg

Innovation flows from manufacturing. A society that makes things innovates. A society that doesn’t make things devolves into into one that provides services no one in it can afford.

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Post ID: @lra+1o9NSucg

Thank you for the post. Nice to see there are others commenting in this forum that realize the Ford is transforming into a new business model for the future. The UAW does not have the advantage they think they do or used to have. Ford's number one priority is data, services, and subscription based revenue streams. This is a pillar of the Ford+ Plan.

The UAW is not a key player in Ford's corporate plan any longer.

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Post ID: @rhk+1o9NSucg

They haven’t brought this to my department but I’d do it in a heartbeat. Software is our future, not manufacturing

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Post ID: @lra+1o9NSucg

Well that should delay more salaried layoffs.

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Post ID: @fag+1o9NSucg

Let’s light this candle. I expect nothing short of gangs of New York style shenanigans.

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Post ID: @khw+1o9NSucg

Meh, nothing new, yeah this kind of presentation whips up hysteria... Look, this is the nutty season keep your cool and soldier on. Almost all major OEMs try to keep their customers from going into a spin when the factories pause production. If you think using the general public is a great bargaining chip, that says more about you than the big oval.

By the way, if cash doesn't flow in - union demands don't matter one bit. LOL, settling for a labor proposition that doesn't work out given the complex financials at play makes for a Studebaker. If you don't think GM or Ford is capable of being the next Studebaker you are mistaken. Good luck to all stuck in this mess.

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Post ID: @pxe+1o9NSucg

What could POSSIBLY go wrong with that plan? I’m sure the UAW won’t mind. While they’re at it, why doesn’t Ford hire a new “Harry Bennett” type to go rough up some UAW strikers.

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Post ID: @oxp+1o9NSucg

What is Farley’s blue collar job expected to be?

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Post ID: @uct+1o9NSucg

Even though the current union demand are ridiculous, most salary folks I know would rather walk the picket line than cross it to so someone else's job after the way that leadership treats their people.

Ford is just buying time until the move production to Mexico to avoid dealing with UAW and Unifor in the future.

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Post ID: @stj+1o9NSucg

Speak for yourself, most of us real Ford employees wholeheartedly support our leadership with the BOD and the necessary direction they are taking the company. We have some of the best leaders in the automotive sector and they have to make the toughest decisions. I have yet to see them make the wrong call.

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Post ID: @ilj+1o9NSucg

This smells of loose/loose situation every way you look at it. If your "chosen" to be one of the salaried people to work at one of the parts plants you have to cross UAW lines, and the way people are now that might mean bad things can happen. Then it sounds like if you talk to anyone about working in the plant and Ford finds out they fire you. On the other hand I'm guessing if you say no to working in the plant your name might get added to the next layoff/firing list. They will claim not a TEAM player. Then who knows how long you might be stuck in the plant. With the UAW demands I'm guessing months.

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Post ID: @tyi+1o9NSucg

This version includes hyperlinks to key elements.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2023/08/17/ford-salaried-workers-parts-warehouses-depot-uaw-strike-jobs/70601006007/

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