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What is the P50 PMP rating in today’s system?

One year into CVX here - hard to gauge what a good vs bad rating is. A few questions, would appreciate some clarity:

What’s a respectable “middle ground” rating? (All VC?)

Are all EE’s treated equal or are some categories more equal than others?

Are supervisors held accountable so they can’t hand out EE like candy?

How common is it to get expects more?

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There is no P50. Its highly supervisor dependent

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Post ID: @1vsc+1vy9nRvf

In this environment everyone should expect to see more ‘expects more’. It is another way to trim expenses.

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Post ID: @1tve+1vy9nRvf

Don’t put any stock into PMPs. They don’t matter. It sounds counter intuitive but consistently having multiple EEs does not make you a hi-pot, which is what is necessary for you to move up the ladder. Just don’t get any EMs.

You have to broadcast everything you do to higher ups whenever possible in hopes that you get one to sponsor you. Ideally a loud one who is willing to pound the table for you.
Also, “sponsor” really is an odd term to use if you’ve seen the movie Casino….

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Post ID: @1fno+1vy9nRvf

In my experience, you don’t want expects more. I know how they try to sell it and say it just means there are gaps. Sometimes that is what it means but in a downturn, that can be the differentiator that gets someone laid off when they do compare employees for who gets let go and who stays.

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Post ID: @1jop+1vy9nRvf

The PMP in this new version means nothing. There is no way to compare yourself to any of your peers. They made it useless on purpose. HiPots will be given the higher ratings no matter what they are doing.

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Post ID: @1ynf+1vy9nRvf

As others have said, the current PMP process is quite subjective. In my opinion, it’s not even intended to be a quantitative or numerically comparative tool.

My advice would be to focus on the intent of the ratings and what your supervisor is trying to communicate through them. Focus on the comments and what you’re doing well, and what you can improve.

A Valuable Contribution rating means exactly that - you’re making a valuable contribution to your team, stakeholders and the company. An Expects More indicates that there are some gaps you need to address. An Exceeds Expectations means you’re going above and beyond the requirements of your role and functional level.

Supervisors have autonomy to assign ratings as they desire, but they may be asked to provide a justification to their supervisor/s.

Don’t give too much thought about how you compare. It’s hard to compare against supervisors and teams.

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Post ID: @1ylb+1vy9nRvf

No way to tell. The PMP system was changed a few years ago to this current “whatever your supervisor thinks” system. It’s bogus and completely discretionary. If your supervisor is a tough grader, VC and Expects More could be common. If your supervisor is an easy grader, multiple EEs could be common. The prior system had forced percentages with a maximum allowed for the top grades and often a minimum required for the bottom grade. Somebody sold this system to the higher ups and so here we are.

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Post ID: @1bdo+1vy9nRvf

You should almost always be exceeding expectations. This is expected.

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Post ID: @1qwh+1vy9nRvf

Who care….., we’re all gone soon anyways.

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Post ID: @xqg+1vy9nRvf

@klt is definitely a high performer.

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Post ID: @axv+1vy9nRvf

4x EE s the norm

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