How many have LL5, LL6 and Supervision that is clueless on engineer and how to manage?
How many have to deal with social butterflies who are lazy and ignorant but love to gossip like school girls?
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@kc, it's not a rocket science. try clearing your cookies and you should be able to vote again.
Ford has a choice. We can work hard on our tasks from home, or we can come in to collaborate. They need to pick one or the other and stop whining about it.
We are just doing what we were told. Doing the actual work isn't important anymore. We did that just fine WFH.
But we had to revert that progress and revert to past practices. We had to come in and experience in the wonder of collaboration. So that's what we are doing.
And that isn't good enough either. I swear some of you complain about everything.
This is a Ford run site that checks IP addresses.
The site is controlling who is aloud to vote and will remove thread. they do every everytime.
@f8+1k11p4m19 Yup someone is repeatedly clearing cookies and cache and downvoting
Looks like someone had access to this site who wasn't restricted and could vote 20+ times.
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20+ negatives lazy Ford employee's not willing to tell the truth.
Posts are spot on. People who have only ever worked at Ford severely overestimate their abilities and contributions. A number of ex-Ford have had rude awakenings when at an employer post Ford they were expected to have engineering skills and egads actually do work. Things did not go well for them post Ford.
@e2+1k11p4m19 Same in Data Base Administration 80% of the team didn’t know the basics when I hired in and they have never bothered to learn. We rotate on call responsibility and they always fob off issues to the 2nd person on call claiming they are working on some other critical issue or they have a family emergency.
OMG @d7 I had the same experience at Ford except with IT infrastructure teams. I hired in as an experienced software engineer and quickly learned that the existing teams didn’t know how to code / debug / install software / install hardware. Management would pay the vendors (purchased services) to do all the work and the Ford team produced status reports. If there was a problem they immediately called/blamed the purchased services. It is bonkers how incompetent the vast majority of the Ford team is and many have been at the company 20+ years in the exact same position.
“Have you even been to a plant?!!???”
Sir… I’m a software ENGINEER…
The post below is spot on. There are far too many so-called engineers who rely heavily on outside sources, struggle to solve problems on their own, take credit for others’ ideas, and are more focused on climbing the ladder through flattery than on real engineering work. This is the Ford way.
I work as a manufacturing engineer in a tear 1 company for 14 years before joining Ford. That company expected engineers, and skilled trades would work together on the floor to fix machines and processes. I had to keep a spare set of cloths at work because I would get oily and dirty wrenching on machines. We did whatever it took to keep the plant running and make good parts. I decided to join Ford in early 2000's and hired in as a plant/manufacturing engineer and was amazed that not one engineer in my depart had any idea how to repair machines or design equipment. They were all book smart with no actual engineering skills. The hole department was filled with "project management". They rely on supplier to tell them what equipment they needed and skilled trades to tell them what is wrong with the machines. Ford will never manufacture quality vehicles until they higher real experienced manufacturing/plant engineers and let them fix Ford's broken manufacturing processes and equipment.
And yes, I have served my time and will be retiring shortly.
You’re overlooking the key issue - the LL4 idi-ots. They’re the ones who created most of the disorder in the first place.