Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Amazon tells staff to return to office five days a week

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/09/16/amazon-return-to-office-five-days-week/

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@Harv+1uynEIeC
"Retribution against RTO opponents is just like retribution against union organizers. But only the latter is illegal."

Which is why I'll see you bright and early tomorrow morning champ. I'll need it with a splash of mocha, light on the cream and skip the sugar. Great talk.

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Post ID: @Ikps+1uynEIeC

Retribution against RTO opponents is just like retribution against union organizers.

But only the latter is illegal.

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Post ID: @Harv+1uynEIeC

Update:
Amazon workers 'appalled' by AWS CEO’s return to office remarks, urge policy reversal
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-workers-appalled-aws-ceo-180558055.html

"AWS CEO Matt Garman, at an Oct. 17 all-hands meeting of the cloud computing unit, said nine out of 10 workers he had spoken with supported the return-to-office policy, set to take effect early next year."

The only thing was, it wasn't true. Amazon was gaslighting the employees. 9 out of 10 did not support a 5 day work week. Does this seem familiar in any way?

"More than 500 Amazon.com employees sent a letter on Wednesday to the CEO of its AWS unit urging reversal of a full return-to-office policy and rejecting his assertion that the rule had broad support and opponents should leave Amazon Web Services."

How do you think this will end for those 500 employees?
You can see how threatened GM was by people threatening to quit... they are rubbing their hands like Mr. Burns from The Simpsons.

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Post ID: @Hupr+1uynEIeC

Maybe we'll all get private offices to encourage us to RTO.

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Post ID: @4qlv+1uynEIeC

"We are also going to bring back assigned desk arrangements in locations that were previously organized that way" means we'll still have open plan offices, but we'll have a regular 2 foot wide stretch of desk we have to sit at every day in a noisy distracting room.

Who knew that cubicles would seem like paradise in comparison?

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Post ID: @4auw+1uynEIeC

"improve their org structures over the coming months" means layoffs.

Managers always see firing people as an improvement.

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Post ID: @4xro+1uynEIeC

Before the pandemic, it was not a given that folks could work remotely two days a week, and that will also be true moving forward—our expectation is that people will be in the office outside of extenuating circumstances or if you already have a Remote Work Exception approved through your leader.

We are also going to bring back assigned desk arrangements in locations that were previously organized that way. For locations that had agile desk arrangements before the pandemic, we will continue to operate that way.

We understand that some of our teammates may have set up their personal lives in such a way that returning to the office consistently five days per week will require some adjustments. To help ensure a smooth transition, we’re going to make this new expectation active on January 2, 2025. We are working on a plan to accommodate desk arrangements mentioned above and will communicate the details as they are finalized.

I want to thank our leaders and support teams in advance for the work they will do to improve their org structures over the coming months. With a company of our size and complexity, the work won’t be trivial and it will test our collective ability to invent and simplify when it comes to how we organize and go after the meaningful opportunities we have across all of our businesses.

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Post ID: @4nli+1uynEIeC

Doctors can replace missing ears with prosthetics that look exactly like the real thing.

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Post ID: @4iss+1uynEIeC

Revelation 13:3-8

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Post ID: @3est+1uynEIeC

@3pwi+1uynEIeC

So you're predicting the New Yorker will win?

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Post ID: @3axf+1uynEIeC

@2hix+1uynEIeC
In less than a year, people will remember this time as "the good old days."
All of the people complaining today have no idea what he-l they are facing.

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Post ID: @3pwi+1uynEIeC

Remember work appropriately? Lyin' Mary.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/20/gms-simple-message-to-employees-about-return-to-work-work-appropriately.html

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Post ID: @2hix+1uynEIeC

@1rcs+1uynEIeC

Work on your reading comprehension buddy but in the meantime I’ll spell it out.

The statement I quoted said gm will set their own direction which insinuates we won’t be returning to 5 days a week. I disagreed with that when saying they don’t lead but rather follow with a delay. That’s how gm has always operated and won’t be shocked if were expected in offices 5 days a week sometime next year.

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Post ID: @2oky+1uynEIeC

It will be optional to work out of the parking lot in your car. You can eat, sleep, work, or whatever, in it. Just park on your campus where you can pick up a wireless signal. Hopefully, you don't own a cramped Chevy Spark.

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Post ID: @2szi+1uynEIeC

With the RenCen closing, this is SO going to be interesting.

GM is probably going to squeeze like three people to an open desk.

Good luck on collaboration.

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Post ID: @1qti+1uynEIeC

@1etq+1uynEIeC
"They always let someone else make the first move"

You undermined your disagreement.
Amazon is a tech company.
Amazon made the first move.
5 days RTO, by your logic is coming for GM office workers.

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Post ID: @1rcs+1uynEIeC

@cfv+1uynEIeC

Disagree. Gm thinks it’s a tech company and has been following what the west coast does with a lag of about 3-9 months. They always let someone else make the first move rather it’s in business policy or product decisions. We don’t have leaders but managers - big difference imo.

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@hwl+1uynEIeC
Open seating, no cubes for years.
But you would not know that because we purged you years ago. Not GM material.

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Post ID: @1uhj+1uynEIeC

GM copies all the bad ideas of other companies.

Stack ranking employees? From GE and Jack Welch.

Open plan offices? Google. Notice they didn't copy Google's paychecks or free food. Just the "pack 'em in like sardines" seating.

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Post ID: @ytc+1uynEIeC

@ 1uynEIeC, not true. I worked there for over a dozen years. I distinctly remember being walked out of my cube when they laid me off.
Go flip the burgers.🍔

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Post ID: @hwl+1uynEIeC

@tji+1uynEIeC
Obviously a troll from McDonald's.
We don't work in cubes.
We need you on fries.

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Post ID: @ypu+1uynEIeC

Ha! Get back to your cubes five days a week! Enjoy your commute to and from work each day! Love it!!

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Post ID: @tji+1uynEIeC

They have until January to comply. They are also eliminating layers of managers for a flatter hierarchy.
No matter what anyone here says...
This is going to be the corporate template.
Will GM make a similar annoucement?
Count on it!
The market bubble is over. More busineeses are filing Chapter 11. Foreclosures up. Record debt. Half of Americans repoting they cant pay their bills. Will RTO change anything? NO. It is a blip on the radar. What comes next is a slow roll to the bottom falling out. Interest rate decreases and government stimulus will increase inflation. The party is over.

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Post ID: @tjw+1uynEIeC

Luckily, GM marches to the beat of their own poorly-designed drum and is not a copy-cat.

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Post ID: @cfv+1uynEIeC

GM is next.

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