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@gy exactly why!
@gx This is an ugly truth they don’t want people to know. They think it gives them the upper hand, then some people wonder why this company is hated so much. Doing this to your own employees and former employees is diabolical.
@ev Why are you insulting @c7? Literally every nasty comment like yours is here to defend UHG, that says a lot. You are exactly why people are venting about how gross, immoral and unethical this organization has become. They protect “vile” people and eat the good ones alive. Now it’s a cesspool of psychopaths.
@ew That’s not the issue, the issue is those who worked for UHG for over a decade were not made aware they started using mandatory arbitration. Also, they wait until a person files a complaint or a lawsuit, then miraculously produce it. And if they realize the employee is in a state that requires proof that they were notified of it, they’ll forge your signature and give the document behind your back to your attorney, which they did to me! Luckily I had warned my attorney very early cause they did it to my friend years ago. There aren’t any depths below that this company steep to. They are as sleazy and as low-down as people say they seem and worse!
@cn mandatory arbitration is a standard in business. I've worked for 4 fortune 50 companies over the years. Every single one of them has that in the employment agreement. Nothing new ....
@c7 d-mbest post ever.
@OP well stated.
I don't know. It's a tough call because if you are viewed as unproductive and less willing to take on additional responsibilities, it definitely puts your role in jeopardy. A far better strategy is to proactively find a way out of Optum (as many have expressed here already). If you have a strong cash reserve and limited liability to extended time off work given the current job market, then I can see a quiet-quitting approach making sense. That's what I did ultimately. There is no way getting benefits cut like 401K match, and practically zero promotions in our group was worth burning out for. I felt bad for the ones who have to do that.
This but document the adverse actions. Speak to an employment attorney early on. Don't play Google attorney.
Keep a journal.
Remember: what was said, what happened, who was there etc. Direct quotes if you can. Write it down. Date. EVERYTHING.
These people will lie through their teeth. They'd literally say the sky was purple if they thought it helped their case.
Also, be proactive. Don't just let things happen to you. Don't always assume a jury would make inferences.
As long as you are proactive, they'll eventually have no choice but to be reactive.
Y'all would be so surprised. They tell on themselves. When you think they (leadership) are doing something that violates your rights just say, "are you doing this because xyz".... or "blank happened after blank, is it in response to xyz?" and my favorites "is this in response to?" and "what is in response?". You'll have much easier time retaining a high quality firm.
My manager used to so proudly tell on herself when Id ask her those questions. You'd be surprised.
Lastly, be aware of your statue of limitations.
@bg 3x worse is what I meant. Never mock a sin you haven’t felt. Not only will you become what you mocked but it will me 3 or more times worse than the one of those you mocked.
@bg You will soon join this “disgruntled employees list.” A wise man once said: Never mock a pain you haven’t felt, as not only will you speed up becoming that, but yours will be 3timed worse.
@c7 100% right! Also remember to tell any lawyers you retain that they use mandatory arbitration. They like to blindside employees and their lawyers with this, because most who worked for them for at least 7+ years never signed it nor know about it. Knowledge is Power!
Naw, do this:
—Document every corrupt deed, every verbal abuse from bad leader, every discrimination act, etc.
—Then, when laid off, contact employment attorney and sue
—Lawsuit will most likely either turn into a class action or else will be settled with a substantial payout to you
Always where I come for life advise - An anonymous site filled with disgruntled ex employees. Get a life jack
Excellent advice. And don’t give your everything to these companies. They discard and replace people like nothing. Instead, apply that energy to something you love: your own side business, a hobby, family, etc.