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Dell: No promotions for fully remote employees

You know this is coming to Ford next:

https://www.businessinsider.com/dell-remote-workers-promotion-return-office-push-flexible-work-2024-3

Dell has had a hybrid working culture in place for more than a decade — long before the pandemic struck.

"Dell cared about the work, not the location," a senior employee at Dell who's worked remotely for more than a decade, told Business Insider last month. "I would say 10% to 15% of every team was remote."

That flexibility has enabled staff to sustain their careers in the face of major life changes, several employees told BI. It has also helped Dell to be placed on the "Best Place to Work for Disability Equality Index" since 2018.

But in February Dell introduced a strict return-to-office mandate, with punitive measures for those who want to stay at home.

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Polly Thompson Mar 16, 2024, 7:04 AM EDT

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Dell's strict new RTO mandate excludes fully remote workers from promotion.
Some live hours from offices and say they would now have to move states to advance their careers.
The policy is disproportionately affecting women, one employee with access to staff data told BI.

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Dell has had a hybrid working culture in place for more than a decade — long before the pandemic struck.

"Dell cared about the work, not the location," a senior employee at Dell who's worked remotely for more than a decade, told Business Insider last month. "I would say 10% to 15% of every team was remote."

That flexibility has enabled staff to sustain their careers in the face of major life changes, several employees told BI. It has also helped Dell to be placed on the "Best Place to Work for Disability Equality Index" since 2018.

But in February Dell introduced a strict return-to-office mandate, with punitive measures for those who want to stay at home.

Under the new policy, staff were told that from May almost all will be classified as either "hybrid," or "remote."

Hybrid workers will be required to come into an "approved" office at least 39 days a quarter — the equivalent of about three days a week, internal documents seen by BI show.

If they want to keep working from home, staff can opt to go fully remote. But that option has a downside: fully remote workers will not be considered for promotion, or be able to change roles.

The memo states: "For remote team members, it is important to understand the trade-offs: Career advancement, including applying to new roles in the company, will require a team member to reclassify as hybrid onsite."

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Dell workers can stay remote — but they're not going to get promoted
Polly Thompson Mar 16, 2024, 7:04 AM EDT

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Dell's strict new RTO mandate excludes fully remote workers from promotion.
Some live hours from offices and say they would now have to move states to advance their careers.
The policy is disproportionately affecting women, one employee with access to staff data told BI.

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Dell has had a hybrid working culture in place for more than a decade — long before the pandemic struck.

"Dell cared about the work, not the location," a senior employee at Dell who's worked remotely for more than a decade, told Business Insider last month. "I would say 10% to 15% of every team was remote."

That flexibility has enabled staff to sustain their careers in the face of major life changes, several employees told BI. It has also helped Dell to be placed on the "Best Place to Work for Disability Equality Index" since 2018.

But in February Dell introduced a strict return-to-office mandate, with punitive measures for those who want to stay at home.

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Under the new policy, staff were told that from May almost all will be classified as either "hybrid," or "remote."

Hybrid workers will be required to come into an "approved" office at least 39 days a quarter — the equivalent of about three days a week, internal documents seen by BI show.

If they want to keep working from home, staff can opt to go fully remote. But that option has a downside: fully remote workers will not be considered for promotion, or be able to change roles.

The memo states: "For remote team members, it is important to understand the trade-offs: Career advancement, including applying to new roles in the company, will require a team member to reclassify as hybrid onsite."

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"The entire company has been complaining about this behind closed doors," said one Dell staffer, who works alongside senior management. The employee asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals.

Dell told BI in a statement that "in-person connections paired with a flexible approach are critical to drive innovation and value differentiation."

The approach differs from founder and CEO Michael Dell's previous support for remote workers.

In 2021, he told CRN that the company's expanded homeworking culture was "absolutely here to stay." The billionaire later criticized companies that were enforcing RTO, writing on LinkedIn: "If you are counting on forced hours spent in a traditional office to create collaboration and provide a feeling of belonging within your organization, you're doing it wrong."
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@esg+1rII09pl

You are either the best troll I've seen on this board or literally one of the stupidest people I've ever I've ever seen.

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Post ID: @3cfb+1rII09pl

We need to do EXACTLY what Elon is doing. Make 100% electric vehicles.

And all the other US OEMs need to do the same thing!

FORCE the customer base into EVs and get this whole 'transition' behind us!

Then the government needs to enforce rules that remove cars from the streets after they get to be a certain age.

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Post ID: @esg+1rII09pl

My guess is that this policy has to do with all the properties Dell owns/rents. They are in long term contracts and it would be a hit to the bottom line to cancel the contracts/sell the empty properties.

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@ygx+1rII09pl

Go tell that to Elon. He is the richest man in the country doing things his way.

Ford needs to operate EXACTLY the same way as Elon.

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Post ID: @lky+1rII09pl

@sfv+1rII09pl - Be careful what you wish for. Being an absolutists when it comes to these things promotes a rigid way of doing things that doesn't allow people and companies to maneuver when they need to. Bad approach that lacks business sense.

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Post ID: @ygx+1rII09pl

It's fair.

At least Elon has the nerve to terminate remote employees when they refuse to RTO 100%.

Ford needs a backbone. Fire the remote workers - with cause = no severance. Replace with local workforce or offshore like Elon is doing in China

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Post ID: @sfv+1rII09pl

Time to sue, again

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Post ID: @twj+1rII09pl

We started this in my group last year. Even TAs were given lower raises if they were remote and any promote to SG8 or LL6 was only considered if they were fulltime in office. I had 2 SG7 promotes in my team, the one who worked in the office got an $8k promote pay bump while the remote got $5k.

We don’t have to announce it to make it happen.

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Post ID: @dvs+1rII09pl

The Company is going to continue to hire from outside anyway.

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Post ID: @okm+1rII09pl

Fine...never did and still don't want my supervisors job anyway. I'd be perfectly happy staying where I'm at and working for the bonuses. Obviously though depending on the position, that's not what they want out of you for attrition planning...so eventually those things will clash, then it'll be time to move on and that will be the nudge I'll use. I'm busy enough...more responsibility is the last thing I need or want. Give the headaches to someone else. Better yet, promote someone from a low cost country...then we can all watch the disaster from afar that results in the bid to save on labor.

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