Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Uh, hello, LBT never said he would terminate middle managers.

No, this was about pushing them back to being direct reports, then terminating people below their grade.

Welcome to the corporation.

@75w is it just me, or is that dude easing into a full on track suit

According to the Asian Power Forward, 18A is jettisoning in favor of a future failure, 14A. Those waiting for 18A?

Looks like the final answer is that TD and the OR fabs needed to be brought closer to reality in staffing. No external wafers and even internal use of 18A has been delayed, so no need to remain so bloated.

That appears to be most of the fab reductions across the company, and non-fab groups are just doing the usual, going after low performers who likely will be replaced with new hires.

Yes, a few upper level and mid level managers, fellows and such are out, but that too is just the usual culling and may be followed by promotions or hiring in some cases.

Company should make this an annual event, right after the annual review and make it clear to everyone that there are consequences to low performance.

Harsh yet the only way to improve performance, because coddling and asking nicely did not work.

Remember when the low level fab techs all thought that middle managers would be terminated?

Yeah, that was funny.

Soon we will see.

Remember, it isn't the managers who will be replaced by AI, and that is what the company is preparing to happen in the near future.

This layoff is just the starting point for a manufacturing revolution, which former workers will get to watch from afar.

Well, so far it is only the line employees getting notices but maybe higher level employees will get notices later on, which should help those previously laid off feel much better about being homeless, collecting cans and just starting to experiment with hard dr-gs for the first time.

OP has described more or less exactly what is happening, with most of the cuts coming to FLM and IC.

The middle managers were shifted to IC and soon will be FLM.

Nothing nefarious about this, just a company doing the right thing.

LBT is just doing what Andy Grove would have done, and did do multiple times.

He called it the revolving door, where you go out the building then come back in as if for the first time. Then break out the chainsaw.

@2dp sounds like wishful thinking, as they have already converted many lower level managers back to IC.

I agree with OP and the others who point out that many of those should be kept as they are experienced and have a solid track record.

How technical they are is no different from their former direct reports, it depends on the business unit.

Time to get real about what this means, which is that virtually all the reductions are going to come from non management.

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@2dn no way they are demoting managers to ICs. They are the most non tech people there are and will be laid off in bunches

Looks like the only managers or execs that are being pushed out are those related to work that is being discontinued, and that amounts to maybe 1000 or something.

LBT never said he wanted to get rid of experienced employees who happen to be managers, and that is starting to become apparent.

So looks like some 98% of those laid off are the lowest level workers, as usual.

So much nonsense posted on this site about an alternate reality where the managers get it. Totally delulu.

Makes sense that LBT would push lower to middle level managers back to IC, then shed the most junior employees, as a way to greatly improve the quality of work over a short period of time.

Of course, those being pushed out are heavily represented on this site, so they don't like what they see is coming.

Life does not hand out participation trophies. You are not special.

HAHA!!!

People think promotions to management are always a reward. Those in middle management are not necessarily competent.
Some are good at politics / a--kissing
Others are just moved around to where they will do the least amount of damage.

Intel is all political parties and colonies. In rapid dashing speed to death.

@hd+1 See if the upper management (VP) cuts amount to more than a dozen or so, just a bit more than was done last year.

The company is organized like a very steep pyramid, so virtually all the cuts have to come from the bottom.

There will be cuts from executives and middle management. This has been communicated clearly to us due to culture issues with Intel. In order to resolve the cultural problems, cutting from the top is the only way ...

Reality is that upper management will only be selectively removed by LBT, and that has nothing to do with the overall wood chipping to be done.

To increase direct reports and flattenize the organization, some lower level managers will become individual contributors.

That may cause even more minions to be sent to the woodchipper but in many cases those former managers will be given special projects. They may ultimately leave but Intel wants to give them time to see if they can find a better place in the company. The exception would be if they are considered below average performers, in which case they will also getting a wood chipping.

So of the 21,000 to be chipped, OP is right that almost all of that will be from the lowest grades.

You reality distortion filter won't change anything.

Have a Nice Day.

Top levels of managements are the big problems. They are arrogant, cheating, incompetence, political and have no technical knowledge. They are the reason for Intel’s failure.

@dr socialism has more problems and has never worked either.

@eg until you need to sell your wife to settle the debt

Debt is just a state of mind.

Managers will feel the wrath of Capitalism which they served loyally so well for decades.

Yeah, fire those guys!

Fire them, not me !#$#@!

Management must go. We don't need managers and all this performance thing should be automated

Typical set of responses, the consensus being to fire all the managers.

But what is really happening is most of them have already been moved into positions which will result in even more layoffs at the lowest level.

I did not expect that.

OP is right that most of them are proven, above average employees, or they would not have seen grade progression. Sure, there are some political types with great personal salesmanship qualities but now that they have to produce as an IC, that will sort itself out, but that makes no difference for the current reduction effort.

Groups that are experiencing greater than 20% reductions are likely going to be cut further down the road, because that level of reduction starts to be a continuity issue, and the company doesn't care.

Ai managers

Itz not science rocket

Cut the top 2 levels of managements, especially in TD. They are really the no-knowledge and the most fake. They give wrong direction and fake to CEO. Ann and her staff should be cut. They are a crew of id--ts. Ann assigned wrong people to the wrong group. They are all kings without clothes and everyone praise them as wearing beautiful clothes.

All people managers are non-technical and anti-technology. They should be removed.

There is not 1 manager in NEX who is technical. Get rid of all of them

It is possible that some managers will go back to being ICs but this will make them high grade and older ICs. Those are two attributes which put a target on your back. If they don’t immediately become high performing ICs they will still get picked up by future reductions. Nothing has fundamentally changed in Intel’s business outlook. This round of reductions is only the first pass under the LBT administration.

Eat the managers.

How did they move up over last decade? By a-s licking or taking other people's credit? That's how Intel went down.

LBT will be getting rid of them!!!

@a3 DefMet is gonna get it worse than any group.

Just as long as the dont get rid of def met

That is what happened to the extra managers in my business unit.

I agree that many of them never wanted to be people managers, but one either moves up or out.

If they are gonna start owning projects then it makes sense that even more of us minions are gonna be doing something else, somewhere else.

Even coworkers who think they are somehow critically needed are gonna find that some manager used to do the job and is gonna own it again.

This is gonna be brutal.