Like actually stupid. I’m younger than most of you all, but I just have to get this off my chest. It just feels like everyone is full of cynicism and missing logic. I feel like I am walking around people that are just pretending to know what they are doing. I know it sounds like I’m being mean, but I’m not trying to. I just feel like the people that really go hard for this company are sort of cringe… I can’t find a better word for it. Sometimes reading instant messages or hearing them talk makes me shudder my shoulders before I continue the conversation. I don’t know who to share this with because everyone around me can’t relate so I’m just getting this off my chest here. This can’t be what life looks like after college. I think I’m sort of seeking guidance or maybe even a reality check, I’ve been here for a fat minute though and I don’t see my feelings changing. Is it the department I’m in? What are some options I have regarding this. I can’t go on validating people’s gossip where they think they are right while making jokes that make no sense, it only shows that they are incompetent on the subject. Stuff like that really makes the shoulder start shrugging because it’s like a pack of stupid people laughing in large groups. As I write this I’m starting to think it is maybe more scary than annoying. I know people make jokes and insults about ford here anonymously but I’m genuinely looking to connect and hear if someone out there can relate to my experiences I’m going through. I don’t think I’m all that smart, but I don’t think I’m like all these people I deal with on a day to day. Is it a personality here? Very dry with little culture. I don’t know what it might be. It could be they have less diversity in life experiences maybe. They seem fake though always talking about each other. Also, I’m not talking about DEI or skin color… i am meaning personality wise. This is turning into a very long rant so I’m going to end it here. I think I’m just not feeling like I fit in without lying to everyone around me like everyone else. I’m having trouble being fake. People here come across as envious or jealous making jokes about other people that may be different and it feels like small indirect jabs. I don’t know why I feel this way. It seems like people can’t accept they aren’t all that and so to cope they prevent others from outshining here. It’s very cut throat like a popularity contest, sort of a middle-school-esque vibe? But not in real life, like the ones in the tv shows growing up. Stuff like mean girls. Maybe it’s just me
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You mean they have the need for speed
@jj+1jv920ana I’m not op but I certainly got the shoulder shrug and know what they mean now, what a load of bullsh-t. Ford is truly a shelter for lost puppies, “you haven’t found your family yet at Ford”, way to prey on the vulnerable.
“It took a few years for me to find mine”
Why would you ever admit this while trying to make your point. You spent multiple years to be accepted or treated like family from others that may be here one day and gone tomorrow at work? This is a disastrous form of group think where membership here is volatile and keeping your position puts you not only in a financial dependency, but also a social. Way to drop down on the Maslow pyramid there.
“thrill of being crushed under the weight of your responsibilities you may find a startup to be more your speed”
Whose family at ford did you marry into in order to be protected by the demands to have things ready by Monday morning, or do work on average up to 7-8pm and sometimes even up until 10pm without any care of human decency. Not to mention religious holidays where you’re supposed to be with family being ignored. Or the fact that any time you ask for a day off your manager says no and the one time you take a vacation ends up being retaliation even though you never took days off and that vacation was actually to visit family. Enough with the “smooth sailing”, sounds like family overlooks the output you lack because someone else that is not part of “family”’ for their professional job is required to pick up your slack, caught on a fu--ing wheel.
I remember when I was set to transfer teams and got sick and had to go to the emergency room and it was really bad and while I was sick my manager used my 2-4 days of absence as an opportunity to talk to my supervisor of the new team to organize and meet with the committee to withhold my transfer that I explicitly set to leave the department I was in 6 months in advance. Not only that they messed up filing my promotion and delayed that for 1.5 years while my position was ALREADY misclassified on top of the two band levels up of output I was pushing.
Personality hires like you are the reason our whole system here is going to be behind in the technological race because the stratification is all sc--wed up in our planned economy.
“Those working for corporate tend to have the goal of working to live vs living to work.” You aren’t correct just because you drop an unoriginal line and associate it in your context at all either. You make it sound like working at ford isn’t living to work. That is what happens to the people that have dignity and care about self development and also not taking advantage of others. We still want to work to live but unfortunately it’s ford motor company that is completely fu---d up and allows stupid sh-t that forces us to live to work. You think we can’t have a balanced yet still be in a fast paced environment? It’s YOU that strips choice. Now imagine realizing you got scammed and you try to run away, they keep grifting to keep you there and when they know their time is up, they reverse it and make you seem like you’re the issue on the way out because of insecurity. Thank god for the internet that people can see what despicable people our state of Michigan and adjacent universities chooses to be blind to.
Your point is not logically sound. We can have all things if it weren’t for people like you and such a sh---y upper management that drops bodies on the floor like that one instrumental (drowning pools) people used to add as a layer to YouTube videos back in early 2007s. The truth is.. you are one of the mo--ns!!! You are not in the position to give advice unless it’s for other mo--ns that think you are wise.
Any university partnering with ford motor company and funneling them into a dual exhaust pipe dream (where one of the pipes is artificial for presentation) is doing a disservice to their students and community until ford starts looking at the morgue and starts speaking to the families directly they harmed in this stupid process.
Working at ford is like saying you either have no self respect or soul… sometimes you don’t have both and it could be a pipeline in sequential order… like yours.
Good yard
You haven’t found your family yet at Ford. It took a few years for me to find mine. When you do you enjoy your work and any minor lackings are glossed over and don’t bother you anymore. If you’re looking for something more on the bleeding edge with the thrill of being crushed under the weight of your responsibilities you may find a startup to be more your speed. Otherwise perhaps you may want to start your own company. Those working for corporate tend to have the goal of working to live vs living to work. Best of luck and move on to at least another team if you’re not vibing with your current one.
@e0+1jv920ana that you’re a gremlin
You’re 100% right. Question i ask myself is what does it say about me that I’m still here.
I sure hope the people who posted in this thread are not part of Model e. This is embarrassing.
@db+1jv920ana nice footprint. Also sorry you’re right. I didn’t know I was dealing with amber heard. Won’t happen again
OP, this company hired great talent decades ago and some have decided to grow while others haven't. I see similar practice in the current talent pool too. While some are paper-weight, others deliver for the team; thus keeping the team safe. There are too many layers for everything that needs to get done. So, slow is the pace. But, I can't say that every team is the same. I see how quickly my team delivers vs. how other teams in our dept. does and end up having the same question as yours. But I can bet that we aren't as toxic as Amaz0n or M3ta.
As if anything said here is going to put the company at risk. Get over yourself.
Yo WHAT THE ACTUAL FU-K ford is mad corny bruh holy sh-t
https://tenor.com/view/popeye-the-sailor-man-popeye-laughing-laugh-lol-gif-17807326
That's the best you've got, op?
I'll give you credit for no wall of text this time. Stick to just four words and two emojis and you'll be just fine...
Someone get their Unc 🤣😭
@d3+1jv920ana err um, wrong thread? There the mention isn’t clickable
You first. I'll continue to do as I see fit. Live with it.
@d0+1jv920ana
Why don't you aim your little lecture at the very first person to dish out an insult here? Hmmm...who could that be. I'll be up all night wondering.
Or is yours just another sock puppet post, op?
@d1+1jv920ana have a break from this and return to this if you truly care about protecting the company you work for..
Normally, yes.
But here, when the basis of her post is putting others down for being stupid (I guess in comparison to her own oh-so-intelligent self-image), she needed to do better than second-grade level output.
Otherwise, it's blatant hypocrisy.
@cz+1jv920ana You are unable separate your professional identity from personal. Be human, have grace. Live happier. Best of luck to you too as well as Op.
Another wall of text from the op. Still hasn't learned about paragraphs. Easy to spot from a mile away.
Op you’re getting targeted all by the same person it seems. I understand what you’re going through and can identify that you have been patient to try to constructively deal with things and feel as though sharing internally isn’t safe. I’m sorry that these people are in ford ruining our company for the next generation. They were hurt and try to lash out on those smaller than them. Not all companies are like this. I can tell that you tried to objectively reason with them at first but to no avail. The comments here exhibit the exact the type of behavior in group behavior that you’re describing. I don’t have many options for you to suggest here internally, all I can say is don’t make any noise and smile until you find a ticket out. Keep your head down and stay safe. You got this. Not all companies are like this
I needed something from my boss recently so I had a meeting with them and my +1.
I opened by calling them imbeciles, mo--ns, and id--ts before I unleashed my list of demands. I even flung over a stack of manuals!
For some reason, neither one was too keen to act on my needs and in fact, the entire conversation went in a different direction.
I continue to wonder what went wrong but I'm 💯 that it's nothing on my end.
Yes, op. It sounds like life at a multinational Fortune 20 corporation isn't for you. I'd suggest looking at openings at a nursery school or daycare. Sounds much more your speed.
@cr+1jv920ana couldn’t have said it better. I’m sorry for the trolls in the comments. I understand where your emotions are coming from. This frustration happens when you try your best to reason objectively and to no end
This is only a job, if you really don't like it, quit. If you are competent, you can get a good job and pay elsewhere, if you aren't, then perhaps you need to adjust your expectations.
In other words:
https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-door-hit-yah-good-lord-split-yah-gif-5240153
There’s no shame in recognizing that an environment doesn’t suit your values or goals.
Feeling chronically frustrated can lead to burnout. If you sense that you’re becoming increasingly negative or cynical, it’s a sign you should consider making a change—whether that means adjusting your approach internally or laterally moving on.
If you ultimately decide the broader culture is not for you, start planting seeds for other roles or even other companies.
This sh-t got me laughing my a-s off I’m sorry the topic got derailed but I can’t help but chuckle at the irony
Not triggered at all. Enjoying myself with someone who doesn't know what a line break is, insulting entire groups of people because they aren't operating in the way "she" thinks they should.
Still baffled on how that approach is supposed to yield positive results.
@ck+1jv920ana I just watched this play out while I ate lunch. Why are you so triggered by what OP said? Do you know “her” based on something “she” said?
Ok. Please head to the nearest food service and pick up your cookie!
Failed to use context clues and apply nuance. Not surprising.
The point is, if op is seeing "stupidity" all over, it's likely that she is the stupid one. It's either everyone else, or just her, and I know where I'd be betting.
When being smart feels like a liability and playing politics becomes the game, talented people either leave or lose themselves trying to blend in.
Best of luck to you OP
@cb+1jv920ana I’m not the person you’re replying to but my daughter has seen the film mean girls and both my sons have not
@ce+1jv920ana the logic does not make sense. Just because we declare something doesn’t not mean causation / correlation. Following flawed logic does that mean all of us at ford are a--holes? 🤣
Yep. I have always found it best to start by dashing off several insults to my target audience. It certainly helps me get folks on my side and really listening to my perspective.
"If you run into an a--hole in the morning, you ran into an a--hole. If you run into a--holes all day, you're the a--hole."
Food for thought, op.
“Life lesson for our little intern” sounds like something Dwight Schrute would say before filing a formal comment about someone using his “favorite mug” and labeling it as problematic behavior. They didn’t come in nice— they came in real. And if your first instinct is to dismiss or belittle recognizing dysfunction as naive or “intern behavior,” maybe the problem isn’t their honesty—it’s how desensitized the rest of us have become. Maybe we need more interns and fewer people who’ve normalized toxicity.
Nah.
Don't portray this as a sincere, good faith effort when it starts off with insults. That's never going to work. At Ford, at McDonald's, in a relationship, nowhere.
Lil' intern best get that clear right off.