I am slowly turning into someone I never wanted to become, a person who has almost no time for family. I hope that I will soon get a job that suits me better.
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Unfortunately people don’t have the time to help others. I have noticed that I also have lost patience with teammates who have not made an attempt to learn what the team does. This comes down to job roles not being defined. It keeps everyone guessing, stressed, and unsure on responsibilities.
@2hqa Fair point, but my takeaway from my time in O&G is that giving more doesn’t equate to getting more.
Nor does doing so protect you when the inevitable jobs cuts take place.
Exxon is the epitome for the industry, which at this point is little more than an old-boys club, kept afloat by a combination of subsidies, lobbying, litigation, and a host of other anti-capitalist practices.
If left to the market to decide, Exxon and every company like it would be going the way of GE.
TL;DR: Fair point but you’re still wrong.
Exxon, like any other for-profit company, does not determine your work/life balance. If you want to work 12 hours a day, guess what! The company will take it. It is not a corporation’s job to ensure you have a happy marriage or time for your hobbies. That’s your responsibility to manage. Some folks do it working 12-hr days while others think that’s crazy.
The issue is that many folks want to work 8 hours (which is perfectly fine if that’s all they want to give) and then complain when they are not ranked as high as they believe they should be. Assuming most folks have similar efficiency, the person working 10 hour days will have more work product than someone only working 8 hours. What’s a manager supposed to do? Rank the person with lower output higher because they have more time for their hobbies than the other person?
Are their some “chosen” folks ranked higher than they should be? Absolutely but not as many as this forum would have you believe.
TL;DR Give the company what you want but don’t complain if you’re not ranked where you think you should be.
Does it count if work is balanced on my Richard, and she screams for more?
Not sure how others define work life balance, but I am drunk most of the waking hours and the balance of the day is spent working.
Balanced equation
Work=Life
The O&A chemical plant in Beaumont has all work and no Family time and the managers like it that way. Managers here create the overtime for us and pay for it out of the overtime slush fund at our family's expense. The moral is wonderful here.
None at all, I've nothing to do in Exxon. Cover things in about 2 hours each day, rest of the time is my own. Still getting paid... The company is broken.
@1vbb It’s a fact of everyday working life at Exxon.
Of course, most old white guys don’t see any problem - since they’re generally the ones dishing out the racism, s-xism, and homophobia.
For those under 50, “shrink” is 1980s slang for a mental health professional. I had to Google it. Some situational irony here (why will be left as an exercise for the reader, but it helps to make my original point).
Perhaps the aging reactionaries should seek some help in learning how to deal with cultural change. Or leave the workforce if they’re unable to cope.
Whoever this id--t slinging the terms bigot and old people around on virtually every post needs to see a shrink. There is so much hatred in your comments. If you don’t like working at xom, find another place. Exxonmobil has a lot of problems and keeping folks around like you in management positions or any position for that matteris likely the biggest problem. Can’t wait till you get older
@1qsb The company mistreats and demoralizes all employees. They want anyone to quit they can to get to the magic number of employees that some outside consultants came up with. Why should anyone group feel more special than another. We can all enjoy the misery as the ship sinks.
I have not had a problem with work-life balance. Those that do should move on to a job that fits their situation better. Best to move on for your own health.
@1pva Maybe, but it’s the old ones who have we-ponized their incompetence and draw salaries out of all proportion to their organizational value.
Besides, there isn’t exactly a line of young talent beating down the door to get into Exxon, so there aren’t a lot of young ones to be slacking off to begin with.
Being called a bigot by an Exxon employee is borderline comical; it’s so well-known that Exxon is staffed by cultural reactionaries at all levels that it’s now become axiomatic. Sorry, but you’ll have to do something about the endemic levels of racism, s-xism, and homophobia within Exxon before you can credibly accuse any other living person of bigotry in any form.
@cgj You do you then.
In general, the reward for pulling more weight is being given more weight to pull.
Don’t lecture us about your ethics. There is nothing ethical about providing your employer with additional sweat equity free of charge.
You need to set boundaries. Decide what is an appropriate workday. It might be longer than 8 hours but it shouldn’t consistently be more than 10 hours….and hold yourself to it.
Of the work you are given, only about 40-60% is actually value added. If new, it can be hard to figure out what is important. If you have a good supervisor, you can start by asking them.
It isn’t just the old ones who aren’t pulling their weight. Your ageism is showing bigot.
Yes i do. And rated excellent. It can be done.
Company stresses Work Life Balance but in reality it's not happening. Work 10-12 hour days, meetings galore all for the executives to get paid more.
I see plenty of people not pulling their weight but my work ethic does not met me or my team fail. Majority of the team is spread too thin and at a breaking point when others do not pick up the slack.
Work-life balance is straightforward:
You read your job description and offer letter, and do what is written there. No more, no less. Prior to 2022 this was known as “doing your job”. For some reason it’s called quiet-quitting now.
And don’t take up the slack for other employees (especially senior ones) who can’t/won’t learn new processes and technologies. Don’t train anyone new either, unless it’s in your job description. The company can hire trainers and structure training programs if they care enough to develop people.
TL;DR: if they’re not paying for it, don’t give it to them.