Lots of little signs. Have you seen any?
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You need a new crystal ball.
Are there still “lots of little signs”?
The SPHIC (special-paint-huffer-in-charge) ensures that the Art Department, which is safe, remains safe.
I can tell you who it won't be...
PSD got the layoffs in October. Who will it be in November?
Nøvember cøuld be darker
Nøvember cøuld be darker
You are describing a world in which people treat each other humanely. SAS, like most businesses, is required to make a profit.
For this reason, the daycare workers were outsourced. The testers were discarded, not trained. The US Retail developers were laid off, while the ones in India were retained.
The people who knew how to grow revenues at SAS have mostly been incentivized to leave. So these cost-cutting measures will continue.
Severance packages at SAS are more generous than at other companies. There is your humanity — a bit of it, during the decline.
Watch this 45 minute video featuring Diane Gershon of IBM. Note that it is 4 years old. IBM was doing this YEARS ago, and others are surely doing it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_EocMgM8k
These people have lost sight of their humanity. Businesses hire people, not skill sets. From 3 days to 30+ days of training a year to keep up and a 5-year half-life on skills does not mean that employees should be discarded instead of trained.
I know. All the nepo-babies and strange bedfellows on the payroll really foul up the algorithms.
@1quy+1uPdrvEq
You over-estimate our HR.
Get real pissheads (凸ಠ益ಠ)凸
I truly hope folks still at SAS get another shot at a VRBP. I benefited greatly from it in 2021.
My guess is "targeted layoffs" only.
I was not. If it existed, I didn't know about it.
My crystal ball (or, more likely, just my wishful thinking) says:
No layoffs this week.
Open Enrollment email comes out next week with news of a VRBP. Similar to previous in
that only for 60+, but no $ for health insurance like in the past. The old people are
happy. The young people are happy. Win-win.
Were you around for HR Vision?
“Will there be a layoff/buyout coming soon?”
No.
It's interesting that the company uses an outside vendor for their HR platform since it's been such a proponent for producing its own software. HR Analytics could be a worthwhile product for new revenue streams.
"Will there be a layoff/buyout coming soon?"
Yes.
“HR represent!”
So, HR is here? Knowing that any rando could respond, but asking for the heck of it:
Will there be a layoff/buyout coming soon?
Perhaps AI will purchase licenses for the software that it is making. Otherwise fewer employees means less purchasing - eventually AI will experience layoff.
“ Our resident SAS apologists have been suspiciously quiet. Maybe one or more of them was "impacted" by the most recent layoff.”
I’m not a SAS apologist. Merely a vocally call out ridiculous stuff person.
Good to see that you are still here and wrong as usual.
Which recent layoffs are you talking about?
Last year IBM CEO announced the company plans to replace almost 8000 jobs with AI.
Lots of other companies are also replacing people with AI. In the years to come, more and more people will lose jobs with AI. With more automation coming on board, more people will be get the layoffs. It's just a matter of time that SAS will do the same.
Data for “evil”, lol
Folks, update your skills on whatever platform they are using now. Even your hobbies. You are in a new world now, the world of 'HR Analytics'.
HR Analytics platforms are scoring each of you on a variety of metrics. Collaboration, breadth and frequency of communication, skill relevancy, new training, sentence structure and use, etc. It's all being evaluated to create a metric for you. That metric is being used to determine whether you are the right 'fit' for the future of the business.
The job boards are also being scanned to learn what skills are hot in the market and to determine what's in demand. You are now the eggs on the grocery store shelf, and unless you train on your own time and own dime, you do have an expiration date and will be thrown out.
Watch this 45 minute video featuring Diane Gershon of IBM. Note that it is 4 years old. IBM was doing this YEARS ago, and others are surely doing it as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_EocMgM8k
If your management team has not informed you of this development, please take that as an indication of the lack of transparency (and development) associated with this company. Otherwise, ignore the content of the linked video at your own peril.
I was also asked to update my skills inventory in workday. Each skill will surely be used at bonus time as a multiplier!!
The severance policy was “updated for clarity” fairly recently. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
Our resident SAS apologists have been suspiciously quiet. Maybe one or more of them was "impacted" by the most recent layoff.
What are the little signs that you saw?
It's a catch-22. If you provide them with a list of skills, including the new ones you learned on your own, they may overload you with more work (with no pay increase) that someone else can't or won't do and you may end up working overtime (with no extra pay).
If you don't provide them with a list of skills or you provide them with a list of skills with no new ones, they may lay you off.
Maybe the manager had been focusing on @cea+1uPdrvEq's written-communication skills.
Being in IT does not mean that you have no technical skills.
Recently my manager has asked me to provide a list of my technical skills, but am in IT.