Explain to me how employees that have been ranked well for decades suddenly become NSI?
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@k4 What lies?
Start posting some links to all of these successful blockbuster lawsuits won against Exxon. So far it’s been nothing but anecdotes and fever dreams.
@k9 Just move on with your life dude. EM doesn’t care if you sue them. Neither does anyone else. Go hug your grandkids.
XOM has not lost many wrongful termination lawsuits since the 1980s. XOM adjusted by simply not giving pay raises or promotions to low performers (bottom 20%) and inflation usually forces a voluntary resignation within a few years. Pip is a strategy to cut Hi cost longer term employees at age 55 hence pension lumpsum gets discounted by 50% plus it saves on the three year average going up between age 55 and 60. This hi cost person gets replaced by a very cheap employee in India and even more savings accrue.
I know a few employees back in the 80s and 90s that were terminated wrongfully from exxon. They won millions settled out of court with ndas. Exxon doesn't really care about employees but they do care about lawsuits. Exxon also worries about public perception and it's reputation. Remember your training first is employee death and next is environmental damage and public perception. Our jobs are to minimize the risks to the company. I was trained to minimize and deflect blame towards the company. Exxon has a special spokesperson to handle the media. HR will not talk to external lawyers. If you are NRE relax because it would take a lot to get fired. Y
Those over 55 you are done and in the firing line. Exxon is getting me ready for an exit at 55. I have been NI for the last 3 years.
@jx i love the paid ExxonMobil shills spewing lies to defend the company. There have been successful cases brought against the company. Which is exactly why they don't fire you when you are NRE. Not out of the goodness of their heart. Its also why they destroy your ranking in your early 50s so they can fire you once you hit 55. Those cases you pretend don't exist are exactly why the company is doing what it is doing. The more lawsuits the more careful the company to be. And, yes, of course, alot of those cases are settled out of court with NDAs. But you know that already. You are just trying to get people in trouble and help your company out.
@er I see you’re back. Yay.
AFL takes very specific cases with the intention of bending federal case law as far to the right as possible. Some post-pip RE who’s suffering from eternal bvtt-hurt due to being let go for bad performance (or just being unpleasant to be around) doesn’t fall into this category.
@jh I haven’t found any cases of successfully litigated age discrimination against ExxonMobil since 2020. That means they either didn’t happen or they settled out of court.
Telling someone to “google it” is a good indicator that you’re FoS, Typical bathroom stall lawyer.
If you had put maybe ten percent of the energy into working that you do whining, maybe you wouldn’t have been PIP’d to begin with.
Stay mad my friend.
I Literally did name a law firm. Practice reading comprehension. I'm not dragging former employees through the muck - so like i said, do some
googling if you are interested in more than trolling.
@er Name the law firms and provide links.
Also provide links to the cases. They should be matters of public record.
This looks like more BS internet lawyering from post-pip REs. Just let the place go and move on with your lives.
If you think you have been wrongly terminated and are close to retirement eligibity - you need to check out certain law firms that have been very successful (specifically against XOM). America First Legal is one of them - but google is your friend.
Two main reasons:
Change in Supervisor
Change in instructions to existing Supervisor.
@ce Yes it is. For those that perform well.
First person to get to infinity can maybe be ranked "very good".
@bs, point 4 makes no sense. Otherwise individual performance would keep going to infinity which is not possible.
Over time the bottom gets cut, there are no new people coming in, over time everyone is su-ked downwards into relative low performance. Someone (maybe even 10%) has to be nsi.
Of course we are. We are made in ExxonMobil's image after all.
Our only concern is maximizing value for our personal stakeholders, while providing minimal external value. And each year, we strive to tilt that ratio even more in our favor.
And of course, employee compensation is also on the rise every year, in lockstep with those expectations, right? Right?
@OP A lot of you get complacent and coast, and many more are genuinely unpleasant to be around or work with. You also cost a lot relative to the amount and value of what you produce.
Downvote me to oblivion, but these are the main reasons why many of you are being shown the door, and why you aren’t getting hired elsewhere.
Simple:
1) it is a relative, not an absolute system
2) The lowest performers are weeded out every year
3) The expected standards rise every year
4) If you do not constantly grow your performance, you will fall. Standstill is not enough
@a6 exactly … this is precisely it. If people are not eligible for a raise, fine. But telling employees they are deficient and “need significant improvement” is the most demoralizing bullsh-t.
…because previously big drops were not allowed, and there was inertia, regardless of relative performance — and now, there isn’t?
Simple answer. Ranking drops to NSI when your manager realizes that you’ve turned 43 yo.
All the assessment feedback is back engineered to satisfy the distribution provided by HR. it really doesnt make much sense to have these many categories.
ask any employee id theyve received meaningful feedback, the answer is always no. because there is no meaningful feedback. supervisors are asked to make up sh-t under the threat of ‘ this is tour performance assessment criteria, to deliver the hard news and face all the emotional anger or crying.
If they were to give VG or G ranks and just not bother with a raise, that would not have pi---d off as many people. The fact the company tell their employees they need significant improvement (and at the same time can't tell what those are....) that failure is on them. I say the company is NSI
Sure. You are being harassed because of your age. They have to put someone in the NSI group and the young snowflakes would not be able to handle such a thing.