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Recruiters have changed

Former Cisco here, happily working for a great company.

Question: Why is it that every recruiter is from +91 international code now?

Also, they have terrible phone manners, are terrible at calling you back, and don't seem to have access to maps.

No, I can't work an onsite full time in West Virginia. If you read the top line of my resume, the part with my address, you'd know that.

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People who correctly explain capitalism aren't necessarily co-mies.

What happens in other economic models when workers don't deliver expected quality?

Under capitalism at Cisco they're employed for decades failing to fix the bugs they create with none of the basic skills not only kids coming out of college have but kids coming out of college in the 1980s had at that point in time. Cisco, IBM (our computers are down so we have to write down your bug report on 3x5 cards,) Oracle (we make all our money in court,) Apple (we've broken more than we fix every release since Jobs first took ill,) Google (we've failed at more businesses than most other companies will ever have,) HP (you'll pay a fortune every month to rent your printer, toner and ink and be happy about it) and other "top" players fail in ways no other players could. In the US no one is willing to acknowledge this illusion of success is created by $95,000,000,000,000.00 of mostly private sector debt behind the curtain, which is about $282,000 for every human, citizen or otherwise in the US. How many of you with families of four can easily cough up over $1M to cover your share?

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Post ID: @m5+1jp369n01

Recruiters educated ? Ask them to tell you the 4 basic recruiting methodology, if not you hit the target.

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Post ID: @m2+1jp369n01

These recruiters are also known to rip off your resume, copy everything and change few things like name, city and contact details, and then submit another person’s resume.
Get resume from one person, copy it and then apply another candidate. Not all are doing it, some are definitely!

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Post ID: @h0+1jp369n01
These recruiters frequently mislead job seekers.

We'll have to add the white people directly employed by Cisco who promised I'd be doing development instead of fixing a perpetual collection of bugs created by other white people who shouldn't have received a junior high school degree. "We only hire the top 10%!" No, and even if they did it doesn't matter because they quickly manage almost everyone to the bottom 5% of the profession.

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"@c6+1jp369n01, go away co-mie"

You're the classic cliché uneducated, non nuanced American the world loves to dislike. Contrary to your limited set of beliefs, the world isn't a binary place. Discussing the drawbacks of a given economic model doesn't make one a communist. But you're simply not intelligent enough to grasp that.

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Post ID: @f7+1jp369n01

These are some of the reasons these are 200+ applicants for every job posted. Crazy 😝

Recession is coming, caused by these recruiters.

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Post ID: @dk+1jp369n01

Recruiters from India (+91) often prove to be ineffective and unhelpful, primarily wasting candidates' time rather than assisting them in finding suitable job opportunities.

Many of them operate under the guise of UK-based (+44) companies while being physically located in India. They frequently reach out without thoroughly reviewing candidates' resumes, asking redundant questions such as location details, which are already clearly mentioned in the resume header.

Their approach typically involves copying job descriptions from LinkedIn or other sources, removing company names, and presenting these roles as "exciting opportunities" without disclosing the actual hiring company. This lack of transparency misleads job seekers and adds unnecessary confusion to the recruitment process.

Moreover, these recruiters often exploit job seekers' vulnerable positions by collecting candidate information and then approaching hiring companies under the pretense that they have sourced the right profiles. They are not genuinely interested in matching candidates with the right opportunities but rather in fulfilling their own targets.

Their work culture is highly unprofessional. They initiate unscheduled calls without prior consent, repeatedly calling even when candidates are unavailable. For instance, they may call multiple times during a client meeting, disregarding any request to call back at a more convenient time. Even when explicitly told not to call, they continue to persist.

Their primary goal is to obtain candidates' consent for a "right of representation" email, preventing direct applications to the hiring company. Their role is not to facilitate job placement but to collect profiles for their own benefit.

Engaging with such recruiters can be detrimental. They often flood hiring companies with duplicate applications (dual submissions), leading to candidates being blacklisted. Multiple recruiters, either directly from +91 or concealed behind a +44 number, may contact the same candidate for the same position, further complicating the process.

These recruiters frequently mislead job seekers. For instance, some claim they have no job descriptions for certain companies (e.g., HCL), yet the job details are readily available on the company's official portal or LinkedIn job postings.

In some cases, they even create fake job listings on LinkedIn, stripping company names to attract and track new job seekers. This deceptive practice further highlights their lack of professionalism and ethical standards.

For these reasons, it is advisable to avoid engaging with such recruiters and instead seek reputable recruitment agencies or direct applications to companies.

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Post ID: @da+1jp369n01

@c6+1jp369n01, go away co-mie

Capitalism is the way

Allowing workers to deliver poor performance is a different problem.

What happens in other economic models when workers don't deliver expected quality?

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Post ID: @d9+1jp369n01
Their culture and my statistics based bias make the connection impossible

I've worked with good people and complete id--ts from white Americans to Indians and many more. Recruiting has been treated as untrained robocall work from both countries for almost 20 years. My bias is against the companies that use these and other poorly thought out HR processes that let you know they want a cog with no ability to think independently.

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Post ID: @c9+1jp369n01

That's called capitalism. You're just an expendable resource. The lower the cost of resources, the better. Can we hire an HR rep in India for half the cost of a US-based one? Done deal. Quality? Who cares. Profit is all that matters.

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Post ID: @c6+1jp369n01

99% of them are not qualified for working as recruiters.
There is 99% chances that in the process they will lie to you or try to trick you in some way.
I automatically reject any request or question from a person from that area even if the respective is now located here. Their culture and my statistics based bias make the connection impossible

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Post ID: @b7+1jp369n01
No, I can't work an onsite full time in West Virginia. If you read the top line of my resume, the part with my address, you'd know that.

I decided to remove the bullet point about previously having a security clearance. I had that it was last active in 2011! I keep getting contacted by recruiters for roles that require an ACTIVE security clearance. Sure, that clearance I had from 2011 is still active after 13 yrs! After all, Social Security is paying out benefits to 300 year-old people, right? 😆

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Post ID: @aj+1jp369n01

All that cr-p is outsourced to india and other nations. You can hire 5 Recruiters there for the price of 1 in the US

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