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BCBS Consumer plan premium when up 65% for identical coverage. Ouch.
@wq This person speaks the truth and get down votes without fact based rebuttals. Learn to recognize cognitive dissonance my fellow peeps or suffer the inevitable consequences.
@v8 Right in your examples you claim crony capitalism is the problem impeding their success although it happens from both sides of the aisle but maybe your blind party loyalty will not let you see it.
All three of those programs suffer from rampant fraud, pricing issues, uncovered services, future funding and many others. Those programs are perfect examples of that other posts statement "anything government touches is worse". The best care comes from outfits that will not even take that type of insurance.
These first two are most obvious Ponzi schemes blessed by the government. The ratio of workers to plan participants is 2.7 and 2.3. Let me spell it out for you. We have less than three Ponzis for person getting Medicare and Medicaid. The math is the math. It is unsustainable.
@sv Medicare, Medicaid, the VA - all three are effective examples of government healthcare. They could be improved if private insurance and right wing politicians didn’t constantly try to sabotage them
@k1 You need to research. We live in a crony capitalist environment. Since the 70s donors have an gained an oversized influence on the three branches of government. They can make those kinds of profits due to this influence. You never answered @c1 question: Show me where government involvement made anything better? You just spew insults and a word salad.
I can remember when they were trying to pass the Obamacare and to get it passed the parties involved agreed with industry to not allow negotiating pricing. <--- Crony capitalism in action. Please they use crony capitalism to take from citizen both ways. They get government payments which are to be paid by citizens as debt and/or taxes and they get paid charging insane rates. It benefits their biz model so they let every one in obese, smokers, alcoholics, illegals, and on and on cause they know you and the government will pay.
@gy I am doing some research and the BCBS on the MN Sure site is about $4k a year less. Deductibles and Max out of pockets are similar. If you have a healthy year the MN Sure site insurance would save you a few thousand $. If you have an unhealthy year the MDT BCBS plan is better but only by $100s of dollars. This is for a husband and wife in their mid 50s.
@c1 is your frontal lobe galvanized? Government is not the cause of healthcare increases. It is for-profit health insurance companies that add zero value to the system and su-k bills of dollars in profit every year and large for-profit hospital systems. Shareholders should not be making money off health insurance or hospital stays. Medical device actually creates something. Health insurance does not. Single payer now.
This is the result of the Big Beautiful Bill passed by Congress and signed by the President
@fd and even with the subsidy, the cost is as much as y friends paying on open market. So much for good deal or ‘discount’
@gy only one option.
@fd Do you only have one option for this or there high deductible options?
If you have had enough and plan to retire early prepare for a shock if you want to use MDT Pre 65 medical. My pre 65 cost for medical insurance went up more than $5k for 2027.
It’s gone up about 30% the last 3 years each year. That way “simply the best” can get a bigger raise!
Massive fraud tends to have that effect on healthcare costs
Show me where government involvement made anything better? Even if you identify some program the corruption will be uncovered eventually just like Obamacare, SS, Medicare/Medicaid, USAID, military spending and on and on. You can make the case they were all created with the best of intentions and do some good but they are ALL managed by the three branches of government which are thoroughly infested with corrupt individuals. The day the masses realize the majority of current people in government or on the ballot on both sides of the aisle are not in it to help make the life of citizens better is the day things start getting better. I don't see this happening anytime soon as we are going the other direction.