Has anyone heard anything about set in office hours being put into place?
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HR = Heap of Rubbish
@bc. That is so funny. Laugh my butt off on that one. You expect HR to do something … LOL. HR is about as feckless as you can get. I have a sneaking feeling that the do as I say not as I do group that is HR isn’t following the RTO policy anymore than anyone else. I don’t blame them mind you. This is stupid and driven by an egomaniac. Get BB a hot water bottle and a blanket. Perhaps his Finance troll will come and rub his feet.
@p0 I was laid off in July.. but still have internal contacts.. and the moral is bad- all employees are waiting for other show to fall.. People are getting walked out same day, w/1 legal rep, 1 hr rep… it’s bad… many are taking early retirement- just to get out of the mid mgmt- mid guided new direction of new CEO.. he’s cutting cust srv jobs, IT jobs, all needed jobs- and not looking for duplication in middle mgrs- Directors being over paid. All the knowledge is walking out the door.. they have no serious succession planning- so no one can train new people- and they are getting rid of bodies- that they think AI can replace… it’s hemorrhaging internally at a fast pace.. no one thinks they will have a job.. stupid mgmt decisions- not a good place to be.. so much wasted talent, time and people- and a disconnected Cheap who lives in Florida- while his corp campus burns down in Maplewood… look elsewhere if you’re looking for a job.. big layoff in TEBG.. bad mgmt.. not sure if it will recover.
When utter failures at the bench level join management ranks solely for quick and easy promotions, without having any leadership quality, this is what happens. No surprise here.
Because of the snail's pace at which promotions happen for the technical ladder, majority are demotivated and the ambitious ones leave at the very first opportunity that they get.
@q3 not sure why you're getting negative votes.
I heard something similar (a "day" is counted as 4 hours)
The current report is checking for being badged in at least 4 hours, 4 different days per week.
@p8 Well, what is measured gets done. They tell people they are watching days on campus, so the people will badge in one way or another. Then they find out some people are playing their game. What a surprise. So they change the game. I still haven't heard anything more since that one discussion so no clue what is real. Situation normal, sadly.
@aw I can understand that but how stupid are these directors, seriously! The ones doing most of that are the direct managers under those directors. In my area it looks like a prost---te parade. The mangers show up in the morning. Walk up and down a few of the main rows and then disappear for the rest of the day or the stand in the hallways and BS about golf or something stupid. I swear one camps out in a men’s room stall for the full day.
This is yet another sign of how utterly pathetic 3M has become. I left about two months ago. My departure was my own choice but I will admit that the utter absurdity of the company played a big part in my decision to leave. To all of you who remain I wish you all the best. 3M management doesn’t deserve you. I spent 30+ years at the company and it upsets me to see how juvenile and unprofessional the current leadership team has become. Wait I should not use the word leadership to describe them, that cheapens the word. I hesitate to even use the word management because that would indicate at least a modicum of competence. Let me use the word mob instead. This mob doesn’t deserve you. Some of the best people I ever met were 3Mers. It hurts to see the company many of you built being destroyed by the mob. At this point I have to encourage you who are left to leave if you can. There are many far better companies out there to work for. I am at one of those now. It isn’t perfect and it isn’t what 3M used to be in its prime but it is better than what you are enduring. To those who must hang on until retirement, good luck and God speed. There is no hope or future at 3M.
Ohh.. another backflip from 3M on office attendance .. I’m not surprised. First it was Work your Way and then they sunset that and said we would have flexible working arrangements which allowed for leaving the office early when required and finishing working at home etc and now they want to change that too? These leaders must actually have no life, 3M being the only thing they have going for themselves, how pathetic
@aw First it was only number of days required now it's changing to hours? I guess it wasn't that uncommon for people to drive in to badge in and badge out. Or to come in for an hour have lunch in the area to badge in and out and then go home to hit the 4 day requirement. They weren't actually spending much time in the office.
Though who can blame them there are desks where the equipment doesn't work. And some of the buildings are out of space there aren't really any desks left. There's such a space issue that several groups have overflowed onto the next floor. And they don't even sit by anyone from their group.
I'm in IT.
I know that there's no specific requirement for hours, but my director is still insisting on 32 hours per week in the office because if you don't have any ideas, you can at least gargle b*lls.
@bc how close to retirement are you exactly, to have such an old fashioned and outdated mindset?
EMEA had some instances where employees were badging in and out about 5 minutes later. That had to do with unprepared office space and inadequate equipment. That has not translated to in office policy. If executives want headcount reductions without severance, it could become policy, but the focus is on plants right now and there is concern about retaining knowledge. Once plant closures and AI projects are implemented, then there may be on site hourly requirements, but at present the reviews are still on site days reviewed quarterly
@bc nah. That’s d-mb. Not sure what you signed when you got hired, but I’m paid to do my work. Not to physically keep the CEO from being lonely on the days he chooses.
Employees are paid to work 5 days per week to work in office. HR should get everyone back to office full time. Period.
Heard from our director that "corporate is looking at hours in office as apparently people are coming in for a short time just to badge in". Nothing solid of course on what is actually required, just a bunch of innuendo. We will see what that means in coming weeks.
Nope, nothing at all